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Most of the time 63cm is fine. I dont think there is such a thing as a perfect cutter for all jobs. Mine will cut anything i use but it has downfalls because of its size in smaller bathrooms and kitchens. If i know i am doing lots of kitchens i have an option of 1, struggling with the big Sigma, 2 I have an old smaller Sigma, 3 i have a Rubi star or 4 i can borrow a TS40.


In kitchens neale is this purely because you like a cutter on the worktop area..?
 
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hillhead

to all sigma users...knowing what you know now and the fact that larger tiles have become more poular, then would you go for the 3b 63cm or the 3d 75cm??

i was looking at a sigma 6 (35cm fwith 45 degree angle attachment) splashbacks etc Amoroc Tools: Suppliers of Quality Tile Cutters

and either a 3b 63cm or 3d 75cm.....

what do you guys think?
whats your perfect combination??
Go for the 75cm Ed,
i seen it sitting beside the 63cm on saturday in a local shop,the 75cm has a side support arm which is not on the 63! plus the extra 12" would come in handy for more room moving the tile about.i might change my 63 to a 75 sometime! or replace with a push cutter:8:
 

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i have the 2 sigmas, a small one that will cut up to 37, handy for bathrooms, kitchens, floors, when using smaller tiles, you can pop it on the landing without it takeing up half the room, my big sigma will cut up to 600 tiles, i dont tend to use many tiles above this size at the moment, if i do i borrow my mates rubi or hire one and price it on the job, tiles sizes are getting larger and if i found i was getting lots of calls to use them then i would consider upgrading, till then i cant warrant forking out on a cutter just to gather dust in my garage :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
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Peter

Would be a Sigma man myself, so will have a go at your questions.

1.why do you all rate sigma so highly???
Well built, low maintainance, good all rounder.

2.what is it that really impresses you about them??
Pin point precision, it gives you plenty of feedback, always leaves clean cut edges and will cut 10mm off 600x600 porcelain til the cows come home.

3.is there anything, if anything you could fault them on or maybe improve.
Can't really think of anything to be honest. Perhaps better side supports for large format tiles, usually just use scraps built up or an old kneepad. One downside would be the large measuring bar of the 75cm cutter, awkward in confined spaces, but the bars are all interchangable so you can swap the bar with that of a smaller cutter if you have both.

4.do they take along time to adjust to??
Took me about a year of constant use to master to it's full potential, although that was when I was serving my time and didn't have any experience of cutting tiles. Should be straight forward enough a transition if you're already used to cutting tiles.

how are they on the wrist? they look a little awkward
Don't find it awkward myself, but perhaps I'm used to it.

how much of an issue is the obstructed view of the line?
Depends on how you sit. I never have an obstructed view of the line, as my cutter is usually set on the floor and then I lean to the left slightly out of habit. It's the sort of cutter that you use from one side, rather than straddling centrally like you would on a Rubi.

also, does it seem strange, breaking the tile near to you as opposed to further away on push cutters?
Was what I learnt on, I find pushing and breaking at the other side of the bench strange. The pulling motion seems more natural to me. Also feel you can get a better 'feel' of breaking the tile when it's that bit closer to you.

finally, do you always have to tap the handle to break or is that just on porcelain?
I would never tap or hit the handle for anything. My technique, not sure about anyone else but what works for me, is to put my left palm spread out roughly half way up the tile on what would be either side of the table, and with the right hand I push down steadily and firmly to break. Doesn't require a karate chop.



to all sigma users...knowing what you know now and the fact that larger tiles have become more poular, then would you go for the 3b 63cm or the 3d 75cm??

i was looking at a sigma 6 (35cm fwith 45 degree angle attachment) splashbacks etc Amoroc Tools: Suppliers of Quality Tile Cutters

and either a 3b 63cm or 3d 75cm.....

what do you guys think?
whats your perfect combination??

Don't like working with a cutter that's too big for the tile, so I have 3. 7f 37cm (Around £50), my baby Sigma, which I'd use for anything up to 8x8, then the cutter that gets most everyday use would be the 5a 51cm (£160) and then for large format I'd use the 4a 75cm (£190). I see you're looking at the new double swivel cutters, they're a very nice predictable cutter to use.
Replacement wheels are around £1.50 from my local tile shop. Haven't had to replace anything else. If you keep it well oiled and clean it well after use it'll be accurate for years, although the bars/handles do wear after 10 years or longer depending on what sort of life it's had.

Would definately recommend one, the Rubi's seem to have a lot of flaws from what I read on here and have used myself.

Another bonus is the fact that the central bar is sprung and fully adjustable as well as sprung tables, so you can raise or lower the bar to set the pressure required.
 
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Peter

what can i say wing, if topic of the month was still going, you'd have just got my vote!!

wing, what do you think about the sigma 6, 35cm?? web link page 3 i think

cheers
ed :thumbsup:

They're a decent cutter, had a couple of them in my last squad. Pretty basic in the line, but still do the job equally as well. Plus is that you've no worrys that the bar is calibrated straight, as long as it's clean you'll know you've got a true straight bar.

Regarding the 63cm versus the 75cm, I feel that the 63cm is a bit redundant. It's a bit big for lugging about to do 12x12 and if you have to do 600x600 on the diagonal they'll not fit. Best of both worlds is the 51cm for everyday bathrooms stuff under 600, then the 75cm for all your 300x600 etc. Means then you'll not get caught out when you come to do a 600x600 off the square job.
 
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Peter

Tried to make a video of some very hard commercial shopfront ceramic I had in the garage but due to nowhere to prop the camera and a cheap phone it didn't turn out too well.

Will try and get a better one some day I'm using something a bit more exotic and get hold of a better camera.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9c0s4cb-4Y"]YouTube - Sigma 4a[/ame]

Proper video, with click klok handle, but works on pull cutters:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkgOLlIhfyc&feature=related[/ame]
 
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Aston

nice one wing!!
they do loook great and cut quick!!,
one issue tho.....if i cut a tile with either a tx or ts, then i would be fractionally slower in the overall scribe and snap but because the sigma and monti users have to lean over to check they are on the line, then the time aspect swings back in favour of the rubi due to visibility so they are much of a muchness in that respect..

what i will say is, i totally accept that if you can get used to the restricted view and pulling technique, then they are the perfect all round cutter along with monti....cant say fairer than that...

just because i think sigma and monti are great it doesnt mean i dont rate rubi , far from it...id rather have a right hand drive porsche, than a left hand drive ferrair if you get my analogy..
 
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Aston

hi wingn
i'm sticking with rubi mate :thumbsup: i just like them.
as i said i used monti for 2 yrs but when i used rubi again it felt right and i wont be changing now..

you sigma & monti boys have the best cutters in some ways. if you can get on with them, then there the dogs but if you like a clear view then it has to be rubi for me :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone who gave their views, really appreciate the feedback!
ed
 

andy-p

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hi wingn
i'm sticking with rubi mate :thumbsup: i just like them.
as i said i used monti for 2 yrs but when i used rubi again it felt right and i wont be changing now..

you sigma & monti boys have the best cutters in some ways. if you can get on with them, then there the dogs but if you like a clear view then it has to be rubi for me :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone who gave their views, really appreciate the feedback!
ed
Stick with what works for you , i have all 3 makes of cutters so im sorted... :thumbsup:
 

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