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Amir Patwa

I just phoned New Image and asked them if they could repolish this product as I've yet to come across a company that can surface grind and refinish Man made quartz with resin content back to factory finish.

They said it's highly unlikely they would be able to solve the issue with this floor. Even if they could it would probably be more economical to pull it up and start again.

Plus it's only really viable if the product is 20mm thick to start with, which it probably isn't as most of these tiles are 10mm to 12mm thick.
HAHAHAHA that's a stunner!
half knowledge is DANGEROUS, I thought this forum was for helping out and not slagging!
 
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Deleted member 41954

I'd ask him if he knows how to whistle. I wouldn't get involved if I were you,if you do then quite possibly anything else that goes wrong will be your fault whether it's got anything to do with your work or not.
I know very little about tiling yet, which is why I'm here, but that is very good general advice which applies to most areas of the building trade and beyond. If you get involved they'll want you to be responsible. Just my opinion.
 
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Rob Fisher

I lost a large job on price, the client who I've been doing other work for has asked if I can rectify the tiling that's been done as it's quite poor in places and the people who have done it have had 3 goes at putting it right. It's all been done wrong, wrong adhesive, no decoup matting, no expansion gaps and lots of lipping. All he wants is the lipping sorted, they're a Quartz tile, I personally don't want to get involved the way it's been laid as I feel with the underfloor heating they'll eventually pop and crack. But what I have said is I'll ask the question if there's a company that would be able to grind them down and repo lush them as the tiles aren't cheap, he's paid £37k on floor tiles to be laid poorly
 
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Amir Patwa

LOL Amir just phoned me posing as a buyer of diamond pads for Klindex machines.

You are an odd chap Amir. Don't get upset when the people you recommend even say they wouldn't recommend this is attempted.
Ask for Isabella and Manuel the owner who told you that they do not carry out work for 3 rd party. You gave them the impression that you had 300 m2 for quartz tile to grind and polish! Wish you happiness
 
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Concrete guy

You can't grind and re polish 10mm thick quartz tiles. I don't care who you are, and on that point New Image agree.

They didn't tell me they don't do work for a third party, they recommended that due to the nature of the product, the customer would be better off pulling it up and starting again, as even if they could grind and polish it it was unlikely they would be able to replicate the manufacturer finish. I agree with them, so does Marble Shine and so do any other professional floor re finishers that we deal with.

The OP stated there was £37,000 worth of quartz flooring to rectify. At £100 sq/m it's not unreasonable to arrive at 300+ sq/m.
 
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Russell brown

Here's a few pictures of it, not the best sorry I'll have to get some more
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Concrete guy

You've got a number of potential issues.

1/ The compatibility of the tile with underfloor heating, has this been confirmed with the manufacturer as much of this quartz has a habit of curling up at the edges when the heating is run?

2/ Lets assume there is a company that can grind and refinish this stuff to a decent degree, when you reduce the thickness of the tile even by 2mm or 3mm it increases the prospect of point 1 occurring.

3/ Once you start trying to rectify it becomes your problem.

So as it's only 60m2 so far, suggest they pull it up and fit it correctly. Having first checked it can be used with UFH.
 
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Russell brown

You've got a number of potential issues.

1/ The compatibility of the tile with underfloor heating, has this been confirmed with the manufacturer as much of this quartz has a habit of curling up at the edges when the heating is run?

2/ Lets assume there is a company that can grind and refinish this stuff to a decent degree, when you reduce the thickness of the tile even by 2mm or 3mm it increases the prospect of point 1 occurring.

3/ Once you start trying to rectify it becomes your problem.

So as it's only 60m2 so far, suggest they pull it up and fit it correctly. Having first checked it can be used with UFH.


Couldn't get a definitive answer from the manufacturer about it being compatible just like I couldn't get a definitive answer on addy when I first enquired about it when originally quoting the job. All that was said by all parties was if a matting was used in conjunction with and expansion joint it should be ok. Bal wouldn't recommend an addy as such and the one mapie and the one the manufacturer recommended conflicted. The customer is aware that the tiles may buckle and has said if they do he'll replace them. Money isn't an issue he's extending the pool with a basement underneath which he wants to house a bowling ally, cinema and wine cellar. He also wants to put a sliding roof over the court yard and tile the lot which is roughly 500m2. I haven't a problem re ruling it I just don't want to do it the way it's been done and that's what he wants, so I was looking for a quick fix. If it isn't possible I'll have to do it rather than losing the rest of the work.
 
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Concrete guy

Well with that kind of budget I'd be suggesting he replace the man made stuff with marble which wouldn't then come with a whole list of "maybes' and possiblies"

I was involved in the manufacturing of quartz for a while so I have first hand knowledge of this stuff.

Everything about this job so far screams to me that the wrong product has been selected at day one.

That said, one of the respondents to this thread says it can be re ground and re polished. I'd actually like to see that and see the finished article, then see it 12 months down the line after a number of heat cycles to see how it's all coped.

It sounds like the perfect job on which to try it.
 

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