Advice Please - Is This Tiling Acceptable? - Tile Advice

[macten]

Christ!

 

[Bathfix Bob]

What is the latest outcome of this?

What did he tile onto? 6mm plywood probably on the floor?

 

[dynamictiling]

Very true there!!! My dad agreed to have the bathroom done by him as he was recommended by another relative, personally I would have used a dedicated SKILLED tiler, not a painter and decorator. He has just done the floor, Ill put a picture up for you to see. This just keeps getting more hilariously bad !!!! Look at this!!!

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What you really need to do is take the tiling tools away from him and give him a paint brush. Judging by these pics, I would personally recommend stripping the lot and starting again. There is to much wrong with this job to fix.

 

[javeiro]

Look at this finishing around the window and corner of ceiling.

 

[Meddler]

Look at this finishing around the window and corner of ceiling.

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I’m coming in a bit late to this thread but this week has certainly has highlighted the bodgit, fleecum & run brigade.

As with any job (as an experienced tiler or not) its taking the time to appreciate how the job will turn out and the likely problems before starting. The temptation for a lot of people is to just get stuck in and (try to) sort out the problems at the end. A bit of effort with the planning, taking time and pride of workmanship is key. The advantage of an experienced tiler working full time (or any other skilled tradesman) is that he has encountered most problems already and is immediately aware of the pitfalls – unfortunately they also know how to cut corners which can also detract from the overall appearance of the finished job.

I’m not a pro tiler but do small tiling jobs, generally where these are part of a project, and would be horrified if my jobs ended up like those exposed by Javeiro or Tianqiang Situ. If you employ a skilled tradesman at a reasonable rate you are right to expect a reasonable outcome. If you are not happy then don’t pay and for a real mess that you cant live with you should be entitled to the materials and the cost of reinstatement. However, unless your tradesman recognises the problem and agrees to rectify the work himself the courts will be the only way to get full recompense – but easier said than done. Just keep a good record of both his workmanship and conversations / agreements in case he tries to recover his costs from you.

Naming and shaming is one way you can help others not fall into the same trap – ie leave reviews.

I hope you get a satisfactory resolution.

 

[Lakey]

Painter decorator. Walk your dog if u like . All i do is tile. Theirs ur problem multitrader.jack of all trades king of nothing

I fit bathrooms for a living which makes me a 'multi-trader'.....you can be 'more than' competent at multiple things you know!

 

[dynamictiling]

I fit bathrooms for a living which makes me a 'multi-trader'.....you can be 'more than' competent at multiple things you know!

Lakey, everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. I believe in being the master in 1 trade. I can do plumbing, joinery and electrical work ( obviously I get my electrician out to check and sign off ANY electrical work I carry out). This all started at the recession as I wasn't working and all my best mates were. They are joiners, sparkys, plumbers and plasterers. I don't touch gas works, not gas registered. But typically speaking I would rather lose money and save face than try and do another trade on a customers house.

I am not trying to say tradesman can't be multi skilled but typically plumbers are good at plumbing, tilers are good at tiling, plasterers are good at plasterering, so on and so forth. My dad is a builder he is multi skilled. Great at tiling, plastering, electrics (NICEIC registered) and plumbing but he is absolutely pish ***** at joinery work. So much so, he never touches joinery work.

The point I am making is everyone has an Achilles heel, something they aren't good at. In my opinion no one can truly be top notch in every aspect of building work.

I also do bathroom renewals. I always get other trades in. Always! Typically I carry a joiner, plumber (gas safe registered), plaster, electrician (NICEIC registered) and a Tiler (myself or one of my guys). In my opinion it is much better to spread yourself over 3 to 4 jobs as appose to 5-6 guys tripping over each other on the 1 job.

 

[One Day]

In my opinion no one can truly be top notch in every aspect of building work.

WRONG!!! I'd say pretty much every builder I've come across is a complete Master at everything he condescends to turn his God-like hand to.

 

[dynamictiling]

I fit bathrooms for a living which makes me a 'multi-trader'.....you can be 'more than' competent at multiple things you know!

Lakey, everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. I believe in being the master in 1 trade. I can do plumbing, joinery and electrical work ( obviously I get my electrician out to check and sign off ANY electrical work I carry out). This all started at the recession as I wasn't working and all my best mates were. They are joiners, sparkys, plumbers and plasterers. I don't touch gas works, not gas registered. But typically speaking I would rather lose money and save face than try and do another trade on a customers house.

I am not trying to say tradesman can't be multi skilled but typically plumbers are good at plumbing, tilers are good at tiling, plasterers are good at plasterering, so on and so forth. My dad is a builder he is multi skilled. Great at tiling, plastering, electrics (NICEIC registered) and plumbing but he is absolutely pish ***** at joinery work. So much so he never touches joinery work.

The point I am making is everyone has a

 

[Italy]

talking to honestly, I 50 years, I saw the first tile I was 10..
right now every day there are new, glues, fillers, primers, tiles of all types, that's 50 years many times I'm in trouble and I just laying tile.
Now, I wonder how one person can do an excellent job making plumber, electrician, carpenter, bricklayer, painter etc.etc.
always be a job + or - good ...... more -
This is my thinking, no offense to anyone

 

[Meddler]

Dynamictiling has hit the nail on the head. The key is knowing what you can do and not tackling jobs you cant do or are “pish *****” at. Unfortunately, many trades either dont know they are doing a ***** job or don’t care.

It’s the details that make a good job stand out. It goes without saying that a good trade works expediently but, for example, a good plumber can not only join lengths of pipe but also arranges them in a neat and methodical manner. Similarly, a good tiler avoids the unsightly corners and will look at this work and “tweak” a gap to ensure it looks right – unlike the examples illustrated this week !.

It is so easy to set up in a trade these days (being successful is a different matter) and many clients are unaware of the standards to expect. If only more customers were aware of reasonable standards and were unwilling to put up with poor workmanship it would help raise standards all round.

 

[Andy Allen]

I actually quoted one of the bad tiling threads on the forum and left my plumbers number with the customer. ...He could of had a tiler with 34 years experience and a plumber with 40 years experience instead he's ended up with an unsatisfactory job..
I would say 99% of bad tiling is done by crossover trades.
Some trades need to realise when there out of there depth, just doing an average d.I.y job, just isn't exceptable to a paying customer.
And customers need to do more research, choose the right trade for the right job.......and don't put up with tiling that's not to a high standered ...

 

[javeiro]

This is what the floor tile grout looks like after 2 days. Rubs off on my finger. What's gone on here ??????

 

[Andy Allen]

Are the tiles fixed to a wood substrate?

 

[javeiro]

Are the tiles fixed to a wood substrate?

I believe so yes. When will the grout dry properly ? Is it usual to have bits coming away like that ?