Tiling Outside Steps

[fergy7197]

Been asked to tile some outside steps...

the jobs are rollin in!!:lol:

Any advice on this?

adhesive, grouts etc.

think quarry tiles are going to be used.

The important things I can see are it being flat for a start, maybe dry laying all the cuts on each step then fixing?

 

[diamondtiling]

When tiling steps you sometimes use bullnose tiles that highlights the edge of the step, if you are not using these then maybe a brass trim to protect the edges. Dry cutting each step would make sense, use a flexible adhesive and grout that is suited for swimming pools, there are many to choose from.

Ps, I once watched a bloke tile a concrete staircase from the bottom up, what a numpty.

:lol:

 

[Peter]

Flexible frost proof adhesive and grout would be needed, and it's a good idea to back butter quarry tiles as they'll usually have ridges in the back.

Simplest way is usually to do the top riser first, then tread, and work your way down the step, fitting the risers first. Remember to use a straight edge/level to make sure your risers are in line otherwise it'll kick your tread tiling out. A tip is to cut your treads slightly smaller than you usually would, to give yourself a 4-5mm joint between the bullnose tread and the riser.

 

[Aston]

as above
just make sure you measure your cuts to the highest point of the risers incase they run up.

schluter do some nice stair nosing profiles !

ed

 

[kilty55]

and make sure you dont plaster the step with bond coat as ive just witnessed on a job i went to look at:yikes::yikes::yikes::helpsmilie:

 

[diamondtiling]

and make sure you dont plaster the step with bond coat as ive just witnessed on a job i went to look at:yikes::yikes::yikes::helpsmilie:

:mad2::mad2:

 

[kilty55]

:mad2::mad2:

its ok dom im getting to fix it, plastering a step dear o dear:incazzato:

 

[fergy7197]

going to have a look to,orrow - will report back with what I see!

 

[Spud]

you will need to be very accurate when fitting tiles to steps, all riser heights must be equal and all tread depths must be the same as each other ,this sounds very simple but it is harder than you may think as most concrete shuttered steps are not usually true good luck with the job pics would be nice

 

[Spud]

Here are some pictures of some steps i tiled last year the concrete was very badly poored so i had to tile them using a sand and cement bed on the treads ,I manufactured a stair string from a 90 x 45 cm tile to give it a classier finish if you look closely at the wall you can see where i set them out

 

[Spud]

found a few better ones

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Here are some pictures of some steps i tiled last year the concrete was very badly poored so i had to tile them using a sand and cement bed on the treads ,I manufactured a stair string from a 90 x 45 cm tile to give it a classier finish if you look closely at the wall you can see where i set them out

Nice job Gary, as you say concrete is rerely good enough. Uniformity of tread and riser is paramount, for HSE. I tend to render or, if tile is suitable, fix in sand and cement. I do the same method, Take a level line from the top tread. Plumb up from bottom riser, divide how many treads/ risers in stair. This determines the height of riser, and the length of tread. Hope this makes sense.

 

[fergy7197]

seems to be concrete steps - tiled on already but water has got in and ruined the addy and the tiles are cracked.

would the steps need prepped at all - apart from obviously being dry and free of old addy etc, will it need any sort of primer - was thinking of a cement based flexible adhesive and grout(wide jointed) - treated slate tiles are being used.

 

[hillhead]

A good flexi adhesive like keraquick would do the trick,prime with primerG.
get them levels sorted first though,easy to make a pigs ear of it.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Hi fergy 7197, If concrete is pre-cast and accurate, no probs. Just treat as tiling on concrete floor ie: prime, use appropriate adhesive etc. Just be aware the importance of the consistency of tread and riser. People get into a rhythm when using stairs a slight deviation in size can be dangerous

 

[fergy7197]

would primer g be the best?

double checked the heights - and they do seem very consistent along the steps

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Yes mate primer G, if you are using Mapei keraqick. I would be tempted to use latex plus. Just to be sure

 

[kilty55]

i like to use an 8mm grout line on quarries,looks smart and also helps if you have irregular sized quarries mate

 

[fergy7197]

they seem to be slate tiles from topps - the customer is double checking but had a wee look through the catalogue and seems to be rustic slate, pre treated so no messing about.

just need to get a nice weekend to do it! hope the sun stays:hurray:

 

[2Balls]

Hi, I know this thread is a bit old now, but are there any BS standards on the size of steps, riser and treads in commercial or private jobs ? :8:2Balls

 

[DHTiling]

Hi, I know this thread is a bit old now, but are there any BS standards on the size of steps, riser and treads in commercial or private jobs ? :8:2Balls

There is yes..

If i recall correct it is about 220mm( 9 inch) for the riser but need to check on the tread... long time since i viewed them..

 

[DHTiling]

Just checked..

The minimum tread size (the horizontal part of each stair) is 220mm from the nosing to the nosing of the next tread and the riser (the height of each step) must be between 190mm and 220mm.

 

[2Balls]

Thanks Dave, I've got a family job in England to do soon ,and just wanted to know. The specs are sort of the same over here. Thanks for looking it up.

:8:2Balls

 

[fergy7197]

just finished the 1st set, would post pics but my camera is broke!

they are murder to do! thats all im saying!

 

[DHTiling]

No pics .. camera broke.. not good enough..rrr:

 

[Colour Republic]

Does anybody know the tolerance allowed when it comes to stairs?

Over the years I’ve installed some thick timber floors (sometimes as much as 35mm) where the covering on the stairs has been different so by default the bottom or top step has been different from the rest. It's bothered me as I’m aware they all need to be the same but I’ve never looked into the tolerance levels, I’m assuming that it is much less than 35mm but I've always wondered if there is an allowance for the top and bottom and if so how much?. As there must be millions of houses that have different thickness coverings at the top and bottom of stairs

 

[Spud]

they all have to be equal