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I would agree - the only problem is that he has 4 wetrooms so big bucks - but maybe nice for me!

In the meantime though how can i fix tiles to that black stuff? Flexible adhesive like rapid set ?
You're going to tile that?

Is it going to be a wetroom / bathroom?
 

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Yeah Dan - I am only trying to do a short term fix - his other tiles were broken - because there is no sub floor or ply or ditra etc!
It's going to happen again if there isn't preparation too mate.

I wouldn't bodge 4 bathrooms is it?

Your name is next to them. Sod being known as the guy to call when a bodge job is needed.

Rather you than me matey.
 

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Thanks Bri - it looks like it could be Impey. I am just wondering what sort of primer i need for it - BAL APD or something else?
If you're winging it, just scrape it all off, sand it. Prime it and tile it.

But then what's the point of the thread you'd have done that anyway?

Surely if you show the customer it's going to happen again they'll want it done right? Which is cheaper long term?

Are they selling the property or something?
 

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How short term? 48 hours??

I'd rather tile a trampoline than try to tosh that up.
Try not to get starry eyed with the potential of more wetrooms to do. Clients have a tendency to get funny when water is peeing through their ceiling. Regardless of what they may say or imply beforehand.

I think brutal honesty is more likely to win you future work to be honest.
 
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I am trying to fix some broken tiles in a couple of wet rooms in a customers house. When I took up the first few tiles they seem to be on some kind of rubber/ bitumen elastic membrane which I have never seen before. Have any of you seen this before and how should I go about fixing the new tiles? I have attached a couple of photos.
This membrane has been fitted directly to the chipboard and the tiles were loose. Some others have cracked as predicted as they were fixed directly to chipboard! Unbelieveably the customer has 6 bathrooms all tiled the same way and the hall is also tiled directly onto chipboard! The customer knows that the new tiles will crack as well eventually but just needs a serviceable short term solution.
I would be very grateful for your views. Thanks in advance!

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ok the the client needs a short term solution well how many times have i heard this and walked away
so lets turn the truth glass on .i am going to sell this house and need it to look good .and the poor sucker who buys it will have to sort this out .now think you have saved hard to buy your new house pushed your self to the limit .with in weeks you are faced with huge bills on your bathrooms the wife is blaming you the pressurs gets to great the mariage breaks downs kids with out a dad and so on .and you played apart in this .if the work you do you would not do in your own home .then never do it .
 
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It's going to happen again if there isn't preparation too mate.

I wouldn't bodge 4 bathrooms is it?

Your name is next to them. Sod being known as the guy to call when a bodge job is needed.

Rather you than me matey.
I would agree - however they had broken tiles and wanted me to fix and investigate - and this is what i have found. Now the issue is doing a temporary fix for them . I cant leave them in the lurch and it must be possible to fix temporarily until they get the budget to
If you're winging it, just scrape it all off, sand it. Prime it and tile it.

But then what's the point of the thread you'd have done that anyway?

Surely if you show the customer it's going to happen again they'll want it done right? Which is cheaper long term?

Are they selling the property or something?


The problem is Dan the bitumen is not something you can scrape off otherwise as you say i would have sorted. Now I know that it is 99% Impey - i can ring them for advice on doing a remedial job.
The customer is not selling but understands the issues and knows I am not trying to bodge or dodge but clearly he is facing massive expense so he will have to budget for that. In the meantime though - he needs a short term fix which he understands. His rooms are 12 square meters each tiled floor to ceiling so big cost considerations here.
 

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Do the other four wetrooms he has then have issues the make them U/S?

What you do is down to you. But for me it's rip out and redo the Wetarea or cut in a stone shower tray.
Anything else is in fact Tennis! In typical fashion, rained off!
 

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