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Italy

the culprit, the culprit is just the tiler. and that's that.
such as tiling, it is clearly written on the packages.
the manufacturer, does not respond to the materials laid. stop.
all the rest are just talk. needless to turn around the problem.
tiler, when he saw the problem, he had to stop immediately. (Because these stains could be seen. Also before laying).
 
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WaltWhite

Im not and wouldn't take out my frustration on the tiler by not paying him. My family all work in the building trade and my dad has been on the receiving end for someone not paying in the past. There has been a lot of guidance on here that this is an installation issue, not universally, but still enough.
I am unhappy with Fired Earth's attitude though but have not had any joy with them, either in their tech dept or customer services. Even so if it was down to them I would not punish the tiler. I haven't actually said that I won't be paying him in full. Just as an aside, surely though you clean the floor properly when the job is done, so it looks the best? Especially if you have 25 years experience in the trade?
 
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Time's Ran Out

Fired Earth have provided all the required information a customer needs and have been supplying materials long enough to know the issues that arise. Once the tiles are fixed it's NOT their problem .
As I said in an earlier post the tiler has to know his stone.
Who did seal the floor?
 

Lithofin BOB

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On your test sheets the tiles darkened to virtually the same darkness as the tiles laid , this could remove possible issues related with moisture . ( is this right?)
As with any / most impregnators , it will state to test for colour change and suitabilty .
I suggested , if you were to strip out one or two of the test tiles, or even a section of the floor ( several weeks ago) that this may lighten back the tiles , after the drying period, the test tiles could be test impregnated with a water based impregnator as these do not generally alter the colour of the tiles at all, it would require this test as they could go the same or just slightly lighter.
 
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Concrete guy

View attachment 85532 View attachment 85533 View attachment 85534 Ok here are some photos, where as suggested by @Lithofin BOB i have used the StainStop on 2 or 3 unlaid sheets. Just half of each sheet and as per @Lithofin BOB 's exact instructions. Although there are some shadows I hope u can see the sheets laid over the tiles floor. Do u think the colouring matches the floor? If so the sealant has darkened the tiles, we were specifically sold this from
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I'm looking at this image again.

The loose test sheets look pretty much as dark as the fitted product.

What exactly is the problem? Are you unhappy with the colour of the stone full stop? Are you unhappy that the already dark grey Carrara has been darkened a further shade or two after sealing (which isn't unusual)? Or is it something else altogether?

Were you actually expecting a white marble mosaic similar to the other pictures posted of other jobs in this thread?
 
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WaltWhite

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Here is a photo I know it's slightly shadowed but u can see the sheets next to a dark patch on the floor. The left hand side of the two overlaid sheets were sealed by me as per bobs instructions. The floor was sealed by the tiler you can see from my last couple of photos taken a couple if hours after they were sealed. The floor is dirty so I cant see how he buffed them dry to ensure any excess sealant either. I didn't want to do anything with the floor myself in case the tiler then refused to improve the work. I only realised I had those pics recently.

Been v busy with the wife being up the duff and the tiler was on holiday too. I had been told by fired Earth teh support that over a few months the tiles would lighten if I didn't get the sealed removed. I think the sealer hasn't now darkened those tiles much
 
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One Day

When I deal with any natural stone mosaic - especially FE and Porcelanosa, I photograph the batch numbers and dry-lay the sheets so the customer can see the spread of various tone.
Happy? - another photograph. Then they get fixed the way the customeris happy with.

I got stung years ago with some mixed marble mosaic from Porcelanosa - I did exactly as above, yet when I grouted the floor, just one sheet stood out like a sore thumb. 8 week lead time for more and Porcelanosa claimed it's perfectly normal - a natural product!!! Morons!

It was a rogue sheet crept in the batch.

I managed to sort it by using an aqua-mix sealer which progressively darkened the other stone until it was all blended... and received major brownie points from Porcelanosa!
 

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