mitre joints on marble?

[pursedog]

hi guys,

i'm currently working on a hi-spec house in mayfair and the client wants all joints to be mitre joints.
the tiles are marble and are 600x300. my current cutter is not up to the job as it is too small and the resulting cuts are hit and miss.

need to speak to the site manager tomorrow so he can get something over which is able to deliver a perfect cut.

any advice on what i should be using?

 

[andy-p]

i would use a bridge cutter but maybe someone with a quality table saw could advise if any good ..

 

[White Room]

I'd want to be using a bridge cutter like the rubi DW200 or 250, Check the sponser Tradetiler on the list on the right hand side

 

[David - Tradetiler]

I would advise the Rubi DS-230-LPS on our web site

It has micro adjustment on the back of the table to alter the square of the mitre - saves a lot of frustration. Nice solid machine - avoids excess chipping etc

Is a bit pricy though

last one on the list: TradeTiler.Ltd Wet Saws

 

[charlie1]

Rubi du200L (great machine)

 

[CJ]

I would advise the Rubi DS-230-LPS on our web site

It has micro adjustment on the back of the table to alter the square of the mitre - saves a lot of frustration. Nice solid machine - avoids excess chipping etc

Is a bit pricy though

last one on the list: TradeTiler.Ltd Wet Saws

:whatchutalkingabout FFS your not kidding

You also have to be built like Fatima Whitbread to lift the F%*$ing thing out of ya van

 

[David - Tradetiler]

for mitres it is so much better than a DW type Rubi

"hi-spec house in mayfair"... Might be enough money in it to get the proper tools to get the proper results

One trick I have seen to lessen the weight is undo the two main overhead swing pivot bolts, take off the whole rail/motor part then take off the table from bed. You then have a cutter in easy to move pieces. Takes about 5 mins to undo/redo

 

[Branty]

If you're doing alot of that kind of work, thats not a big price to pay. I used a big German machine last year. £6k's worth of cutter.

 

[hillhead]

My sigma 10M water saw can mitre like nothing normal,sweet as a nut.
heavy bugger too but when you have a helper its no prob.lifted it out once myself before but said no more,have to look after my back and all.

 

[Grace'sDad]

I bought my first quality bridge saw, and felt the same way I do about my washboy - how did I struggle by without it?!

If you are doing quality stone jobs even just occasionally - invest in a decent saw. The time saved will pay for the saw within a few jobs.

 

[pursedog]

cheers for the replies.
is a lot to pay out but like you say it will pay for itself in the not too distant future.
rubi looks like the best bet, prob shld get the diamant dw-200-nl .... collecting tile cutters like fcking panini stickers these days!!!!!!!

 

[pjtiler]

you dont mitre marble !!!
the correct way is to step butt the corner by 2/3 mm

 

[charlie1]

Why is that PJ? is it because it is too brittle?

 

[MICK the Tiler]

you dont mitre marble !!!
the correct way is to step butt the corner by 2/3 mm

Tell that to the architech where I'm working I have tried myself, but the guy is just a D*ckhead :mad2: I'm with You PJ a well constructed polished butt joint looks like Pure Class IMO.

 

[MICK the Tiler]

Why is that PJ? is it because it is too brittle?

To answer your question Charlie although Pj will have his own thoughts, Marble is soft yet dense and can indeed be mitered and in fact can be shaped into anything you like if you are skilled enough (Look at the statue of David), the problem arises where the very fine edge near the end of the miter, it will look great for a while, but bathrooms are useable spaces where things get bumped and knocked and eventually the edge will chip over time. Unlike the statue of David where one looks but does not touch.

A well constructed butt joint polished up will look better for alot longer.

 

[Branty]

And if you get yourself the fein stone polishing kit from a good tool stockist, you'll have the tools to do it.
I worked in a house two years ago, with 5 bathrooms, all tiled in marble. They wanted the but edge finish polished. Myself and the other tiler had no tools, and no experience at this. That got a guy in, and he charged £10 a linear meter. Looked really straight forward, and he made a nice little wedge.

 

[pjtiler]

Why is that PJ? is it because it is too brittle?

yes thats it in one
a mitred edge will last no time attall

 

[grumpygrouter]

you dont mitre marble !!!
the correct way is to step butt the corner by 2/3 mm

Good tip PJ. Care to expand on the method?

 

[Olz]

Good tip PJ. Care to expand on the method?

Ditto PJ, can you give us a brief rundown of how to do it?

 

[pursedog]

just forked out over £650 for a VIP290. looks the nuts, hope it does what it says on the tin!

 

[pjtiler]

well you have to polish both the corner tiles (taking the edge off as you go )
then instead of doing a normal butt joint you just move each tile back away from the corner 2 mm or more depending on tile thickness
its been done like that since roman times

 

[pursedog]

what do you mean polish?

 

[pjtiler]

what do you mean polish?

you make the edge the same as the face (polished )

 

[Branty]

well you have to polish both the corner tiles (taking the edge off as you go )
then instead of doing a normal butt joint you just move each tile back away from the corner 2 mm or more depending on tile thickness
its been done like that since roman times

You got any pics PJ?

 

[charlie1]

like this?

 

[MICK the Tiler]

Yep!! Pretty much, you got it.

 

[pjtiler]

like this?

thats just a butt joint
i tend to move both tiles back a few mm

 

[Branty]

Why would you step but, as opposed to just butting?

 

[pjtiler]

Why would you step but, as opposed to just butting?

looks nicer
and thats the way its always been done

 

[pursedog]

jeese life would be a lot more simple if they cld be finished like that. the architect wants them mitered and its doing my head in.

to top it all off i had to take the van in today to bring the new machine.....what a joke. it is a pile of ****. was messing about with it for ages and didnt produce the goods. poor set up and bad design. also got a ticket for £60, got no work done had to leave early to drive another hour n half to get a swap- for a PERLA seems ok but havent cut the tiles with it yet.

oh yeah add congestion charge and petrol in the mix and put a fork in me cause i'm done.