Dot & Dab travertine?

[spanky]

Can someone tell me if you can dot and dab 600 x 400 travertine tiles onto a plasterboard wall?

Thanks

 

[pjtiler]

Considering the location of these tiles i would be more bothered about the lack of movement joints!
I would think that most of the woes spanky is having could have been avoided if he had picked a tiler that he knew was a time served tradesman,checked some of his references,had a look at some previous work this tiler has done,made sure he has the correct and up to date insurance cover and considering the cost of the tiles it would have been a good idea to get the spec from the adhesive manufacturer first.
its worth noting that adhesive manufacturers will always give a belt and braces answer to cover themselves.Over the years ive seen tiles stuck on with evostick that have still be well stuck 25 years on.And anyone who has tried to remove tiles stuck on with fix'n'grout will know how well the so called lesser adhesives can perform.Mechanical fixing of granite to shop fronts never calls for 100% contact.

this is a job i did a few years back in lisbon (granite ) every tile was spot fixed

 

[spanky]

Like the previous post though, I bet they're not stuck to plasterboard.

 

[pjtiler]

Like the previous post though, I bet they're not stuck to plasterboard.

quite right
sand and cement render and copper L pins
every 3 course
thats my point!!!

 

[grumpy]

I did wonder about the angle grinder on the floor.I put a job right last year that a so called tiler messed up.He also had just an angle grinder to cut tiles!Sounds like you've had a bad experience spanky.I would have said if the only issue was dabbing the tiles then i would'nt worry,to be honest if that is cement based adhesive there isnt a hope in hell that those tiles will come off.However it does sound from what your saying that it would be better to sack the guy off and get it done by someone who knows what they are doing.

 

[The D]

OK, I've pulled a couple of tiles off, right at the top of the wall, see pictures:
(although they had only been up 5 or 6 hours they came off with no effort whatsoever.)

You are most definately correct, this is getting re-done.

I will continue to post what happens.

It's such a shame as it looks beautiful.

Thanks to you all.

Grumpy if you call that fixed correctly you should not be in business as a tiler you should be in a rodeo with the rest of the cowboys. Personally it makes me sick to my stomach to have to listen to people like you make excuses and try to justify you sub standard work. We have British standards for a reason m8. This man is paying good money he deserves a good job :mad2:

 

[spanky]

To be fair he did go and buy a tile cutter also, although I figured he would have had one.

He bought a Plasplugs one. Protrade Plus or something.

 

[spanky]

This is the floor area where he was cutting them.

Doesn't seem right to do it directly on the floorboards, regardless of them being covered with Ply?

 

[LM Ceramics]

a plasplugs tile cutter i think you have definetly had an encounter with john wayne

 

[grumpy]

deanotile, if you took the time to read my posts properly you will see that i dont condone the standard of work done at spankys.I make the point that dabbing if done correctly is an acceptable way to fix tiles in some circumstances.If i understand you right all of your work over the past 25 years has 100% coverage does it? Get your facts straight before you go throwing words like cowboy about!

 

[grumpy]

Spanky you let him cut tiles in your house with an angle grinder!What took so long to come to the conclusion he want a real tiler.

 

[spanky]

Please don't argue, all I want is a bathroom, it's been 3 weeks.

All constructive critisism is willfully accepted, good or bad from my point of view.

I potentially stand to lose a fair amount of money if I go about this the wrong way, and like I said all I want is a bathroom that is done correctly, I am willing to pay what I consider to be the right money for the right job if you know what I mean.

 

[spanky]

Well, it's stone not porcelain which is all I've ever worked with in my 5 or 6 tiling experiences, and I'm not a tiler is all I can say to that, I didn't give it a thought, the Tile cutter I did though, I fix TV's, it like me buying a £4.99 multimeter?, I only use Fluke.

It was a "De Walt" angle grinder though. . . . . . .

 

[LM Ceramics]

unless its just me the correct way to fix tiles is the spread the adhesive on wall with a suitable notched trowel to gain 100% coverage.

since when has dot and dabbing tiles been acceptable in my 4 years as a tiler ive never been told d&b is ok

 

[The D]

There is nothing wrong with dabbing the wall tiles so long as its a cement based adhesive.From the photo you posted it looks like there is at least 75% coverage on the tile and thats good enough.Alot of whats been said on this post is inexperience.For those people who have been tiling long enough will remember bal used to sell tools a few years ago and one trowel they had in the range was a 50% coverage.Also the trowel method of fixing is big here in the uk and some other countries but many mediterainian countries dab tiles. do yourself a favour and speak to an architect for the correct imformation.

I’m not inexperienced and no not all my jobs were 100 percent coverage but no less than seventy percent and not less than eighty percent when fixing natural stone. As far as cowboys go if the Stetson fits then you should wear it.

 

[grumpy]

unless its just me the correct way to fix tiles is the spread the adhesive on wall with a suitable notched trowel to gain 100% coverage.

since when has dot and dabbing tiles been acceptable in my 4 years as a tiler ive never been told d&b is ok

It was all the rage before notched trowels came along!
There are many many ways of fixing tiles,The advantage of years of experience means that you can call on some of the old skills to help you overcome problems.

 

[grumpy]

I’m not inexperienced and no not all my jobs were 100 percent coverage but no less than seventy percent and not less than eighty percent when fixing natural stone. As far as cowboys go if the Stetson fits then you should wear it.

Just had a look at some of your posts.I'm guessing your no stranger to pinching your nose and holding your head back!

 

[brian c]

Why dont you both give it a rest and continue helping the guy out.

 

[The D]

Just had a look at some of your posts.I'm guessing your no stranger to pinching your nose and holding your head back!

I just say it like it is if that puts your nose out of joint that is tuff.

 

[spanky]

Why dont you both give it a rest and continue helping the guy out.

My idea too please.

 

[The D]

Saying that there is nothing wrong with the job is not helping any one.

 

[spanky]

Any thoughts on who "may" - GULP - want to do the job......

No-one I'm guessing from the number of replies to give a quote? I bet most of you are working perhaps. . . .

 

[brian c]

Its a little bit far for me to travel or else i would have helped you out Spanky,dont worry someone on here will sort it for you m8,wait till everyone gets home and also why dont you post a thread advertising the job,this way you will get more replies....Bri

 

[spanky]

I have now done that.

 

[DHTiling]

Evening spanky....pleased you stood your ground about this.......

I'm also sorry you have had to put up with these members bitching........lets see if we can get you sorted with a fixer now..........let me know which way you want to go...new thread etc.......

Grumpy and Deanotile.....please don't continue this on the forums...do it either by PM or not at all ........thanks...

 

[spanky]

I just hope this doesn't all come back and bite me in the ar*e, and hopefully not lose too much money in the process.

 

[DHTiling]

At least you will sleep at night spanky......if you don't get any replies for the tiling then have a look on our FindTrustedTradesmen.co.uk - Find tilers, plumbers, plasterers, electricians, builders, bathrooms specialists and more. site and good luck and let us know any more news please...

 

[charlie1]

Spanky dont worry mate, you will find someone who will take this on. And you now have a good insight in to what standard is required in terms of coverage. Like Brian says wait till all the tilers get home and by tonight things will look a bit better.

 

[CLAYS TILES]

I'm stuck, I want to tell them to rip it off, but we are now wondering where we go from here.

If I put myself in the contractors shoes, who I am sure knows it isn't right, what would you say?

I am currently out £1000 worth of tiles, which I guess I should expect him to replace, I should also expect him to rip it out, dispose of it, re-plasterboard it then re-tile it.

I would imagine he is going to tell me to get lost.

We have already paid a sizeable deposit, although I do think if it came to the crunch I could get every penny of that back, although that may involve judicious use of the County Court.

Do you see my problem?

On top of that, we have 2 babies under 2 years old and we have had no bathroom for almost 3 weeks now. This is our only bathroom.

i have just read most of this thread,i hope you dont take this the wrong way but WAKE UP & STOP DREAMING! more than a dozen blokes on here who have tiled for more years than they can remember is telling you how wrong the arse of a bloke who calls hiself a TILER is! wots more is your willing to put your family at risk of injuries,as this will happen once the various temperatures get into the tiles,can you imagine giving your youngest child a bath & a tile falls off wall &, god forbid landed on to the child,it wouldn't stand a chance with the weight etc.
I'm sorry m8,but tell them to take it all off & re-do it properly or you aint paying them!!! (or the other option is shut up ignor everyones advice & watch out!)
if i've offended you i'm sorry but you really need to listen to wot people are telling you,& report this waste of space ''tiler'' to the governing bodies or rogue traders!!!

 

[DHTiling]

Read again DAZ...............he is getting another tiler in...lol lol.......

 

[CLAYS TILES]

Read again DAZ...............he is getting another tiler in...lol lol.......

sorry i only got to 3 or 4th page i was getting fed up of him sticking up 4 so called tiler!!!
me & my big feet!!!
sorry in future i'll read all posts!:mad2: