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bj F

Sorry but I have got a bee in my bonnet now I have gone through my college notes and one of the reasons you do not dot and dab tiles of any kind is that it leaves air pockets and in a bathroom the temperatures will change from extreme to extreme and this can cause the tile to blow. Also movement in the sub straight will in time case the tile to crack at is weakest point. (The part with now adhesive)
 
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spanky

Ok, sorry, had things to do this evening, back now.

I am most grateful for your replies, I hope you're not all in bed yet.

Right, I have been using this forum for answers to my questions on this job, and yes I can confirm the old plasterwork was removed back to bare brick, I did it myself with a friend.

New plasterboard was then affixed to all the walls. To get the story right...

The plasterboard was originally fixed to the walls by a plasterer who obviously wanted to get the job done quickly, the tiler came the next day and started to tile using the "correct" method, covering the wall with adhesive, then using the notched trowel, then placing the tile, however, as he was going along the weight of the tile was pulling the plasterboard from the walls.

He stopped and said he would not continue until it was corrected.

The Plasterer came back and re-affixed the plasterboard much more securely.

Time had passed and the original booked tiler was then on another pre-booked job, so the contractor sourced another tiler who started on Tuesday this week.

It was not until today I noticed that he had been fitting the tiles using the method shown in the photo on page 1, dot and dab.

I think there is probably 50% - 60% of the tile covered in adhesive, I am sure the tile in the photo was "for show" and the ones that no-one has seen will have less on them.

Once I noticed this, I asked if he had done the whole room like this and he openly admitted that he had.

The tiler and the contractor are both saying it is fine and how they were told by the adhesive company and a tile firm that this was how it should be done.

I am now obviously a bit stuck, I paid £1000 ish for the Tiles and have paid this contractor to basically rip out the whole room, fit the tiles then fit a bathroom suite & shower cubicle with all ancillary works, it is going to cost him upwards of £3000 to rip it off and start again, perhaps more.

Obviously he is not going to "want" to do this.

????
 
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grumpygrouter

Spanky, i don't know if this is realistic or not but you seem to have a bit of an impass here. Why don't you consider some sort of external arbitration like trading standards for instance. Invite them in to consider the situation at present and see if they can find out the "correct" way it should be done for you. Or how about the TTA, they are supposed to be a controlling body of sorts.

All of us on here know it's wrong but hey, we only tile for a living! Your contractor seems to work to different rules, see if he is prepared to accept external guidance?
 
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uug197h

I think i can safely say that no one thinks its been done right and if you are going to pay for it it needs doing right, remember at the end of the day YOU have to live with it and all the problems it will bring you may think its going to cost a lot to start again but if the tiles fall of the wall and smash your bath its you that has to pay for it. if a tile falls of when your in the shower who will pay for your wages if you get hurt, only pay for a good job not a bodge job
 
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saintdom

it gets even worse now you have said they are putting in a shower cubicle, at least tell us that they have tanked the room sufficiently, PLEASE. 12.5 mm plasterboard will not last long if subjected to constant moisture, it will just turn too mush. Too be fair i dont tile much but do plaster and am surprised the room wasnt sand and cement rendered or at least hardwalled when you are talking 30kg sq m. this seems too heavy for D+d plasterboard and when wet it stands neigh chance.

I really hope you can get these mugs to do it right, it can be a nervous time when confronting tradesmen but rather that then wasting 1000s of puonds.

good luck
 

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