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[Pro Tiler Tools]

I seen a mat that looks like polystyrene . Gray in colour It is made by norcros it is called permalayer

Its very similar to that stuff.

 

[Pro Tiler Tools]

Would that be polypropylene?

Did they only ever try one particular system, do you have a theory as to why it wasn't successful Sam?

Im not sure if they tried more than the 1 system. When we spoke about the issue we both agreed that the 1mm couldn't provide enough lateral movement as its is made of 1 material not 2 like the Dural and Schluter systems, by having the 2 allows a certain amount of lateral movement between the fleece and the top of the matting, but that was just our opinions. I am sure people must use the 1mm systems with success otherwise they wouldn't still be selling them. Have you ever or currently use them?

Sam

 

[Old Mod]

Im not sure if they tried more than the 1 system. When we spoke about the issue we both agreed that the 1mm couldn't provide enough lateral movement as its is made of 1 material not 2 like the Dural and Schluter systems, by having the 2 allows a certain amount of lateral movement between the fleece and the top of the matting, but that was just our opinions. I am sure people must use the 1mm systems with success otherwise they wouldn't still be selling them. Have you ever or currently use them?

Sam

Yes mate, use them all the time with the thin porcelain, recommend it for all floors.
Ditra presently won't advise their matting for tiles under 6mm.
As most of the material we're fitting presently is under that we use the 1mm tilemaster mat.
From those that have been tried, we keep going back to that one in particular.

 

[Pro Tiler Tools]

Yes mate, use them all the time with the thin porcelain, recommend it for all floors.
Ditra presently won't advise their matting for tiles under 6mm.
As most of the material we're fitting presently is under that we use the 1mm tilemaster mat.
From those that have been tried, we keep going back to that one in particular.

Ah that's interesting to know, is it this one you use:

Anti-fracture Matting for Floors Subject to Limited Movement | Tilemaster Adhesives - http://www.tilemasteradhesives.co.uk/anti-fracture-mat/tilemaster-anti-fracture-mat

I will take a look into it. I personally haven't seen this one in the flesh is it like the BAL Rapid mat?

Sam

 

[Dumbo]

Most 1mm systems to my understanding are made of 3 layers to give that lateral movement . My local shop has just started selling codex which unlike bal can used for waterproofing as well and they say it is cheaper than rapid matt

 

[Old Mod]

I will take a look into it. I personally haven't seen this one in the flesh is it like the BAL Rapid mat?
Sam

Yeah that's the one Sam, no actually, Bal is very similar to Isomat, but Tilemaster's is more like a felt construction, much more like material in construction, so you have to hold it both sides or it collapses if you try and lay it by one edge.
It won't support itself if you hold it by just one edge.
thats a better description haha
It'll stretch fairly easily if you're not aware, but it adheres extremely well and it just feels more substancial than others, with no problems to date that we know of.

 

[Dumbo]

No problems to date that I now of . That what I tell my customers if something has failed and they don't tell me as far as I'm aware no problems to date .

 

[Old Mod]

No problems to date that I now of . That what I tell my customers if something has failed and they don't tell me as far as I'm aware no problems to date .

You might
I don't.
Believe me all problems with thin porcelain are reported back straight away.

 

[Pro Tiler Tools]

Ah see that looks like a different system to the 1mm ones i am talking about. Its strange as we normally hear of these things pretty quickly but we havent seen this one yet.

 

[Dumbo]

No problems to date that I now of . That what I tell my customers if something has failed and they don't tell me as far as I'm aware no problems to date .

Just going to re write this . No problems to date that i know of .That is what I tell my customers when discussing tiling to a tricky substrate . If customers don't tell me of failures then as far as I am aware no problems to date . I have walked in to many a house to look at new work and have seen tiles failing of previously done work by people and the customer is non the wiser. so if customer does not let tiler know he will be saying the exact same thing but some customers are not aware .