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  1. CheshireChap

    CheshireChap Active Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Wall and Floor Tiling Job in

    Hi,

    We have a new extension, 45m2 with wet underfloor (commissioned) and screened 4 months ago. This joins onto the existing kitchen which is concrete base.

    Kitchen will have elec underfloor. Tiles are 1m2 porcelain 6mm thick (thin!). Kitchen area 24m2.

    The new floor is pretty good but highest point in one corner is 5mm proud. In kitchen there is a small area 20mm out of true.

    Tiler wants a perfectly level surface and says an average SLC of 6-8mm should do it.

    Any recommendations for a firm to do this for us?
     


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  2. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    I would push it on the tiler because if he is not happy with it its his puppy . If he can't do it find somebody that can do both as you don't want two contractors blaming each other if it doesn't go as planned and you getting caught in the middle
     
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  3. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    As above.
    Your tiler should insist on doing it.
     
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  4. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    North East England
    Is there a joint between the 2 substrates that you are tiling over?
    As above - tiler should prepare the base ready for tiling if he's worth his salt!
     
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  5. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    Yep, as above, 2 different substrates and heating zones will require an expansion joint of some description.
     
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  6. CheshireChap

    CheshireChap Active Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Yes there will be a joint between the 2 rooms.
     
  7. peteablard

    peteablard Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    If your tiler isn't skilled enough to level it himself then I wouldn't let him loose laying those tiles. Alarm bells should be ringing!!
     
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  8. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    italy
    I add, not all tilers, they know how to pose and cut, thin porcelain, a mistake is 1smq thrown away.
     
  9. CheshireChap

    CheshireChap Active Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    To be fair, we chose these guys because they have just finished a 60m2 floor with the exact same tiles as ours. They said they could level it but would prefer a specialist company to do it.

    That's what I came on for, to find one!
     
  10. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    italy
    good ;)
     
  11. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    Wouldn't be happy with just finished as faults may yet arise
     
  12. CheshireChap

    CheshireChap Active Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    I can't win!!
     
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  13. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    I don't know of any companies specialising in floor levelling. I'd recommend finding someone who's happy to prep their own work
     
  14. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Lancashire
    All the "specialist floor prep" companies I have followed onto jobs in the past 10yrs (in the NorthWest) - I have had to rectify their "specialised" work myself!

    It's not a huge floor - any decent tiler would WANT to do it themselves.
     
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  15. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    who prepped the 60m2 floor they've just finished?
    are these guys tilers or just builders who tile?
     
  16. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Lancashire
    I don't mean to be awkward saying it, but I would LOVE a company to come in and prep my floors.
    They just never - ever get them as good as I can. Ok they're faster, but we all know faster does not equate with better.
     
  17. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    who'd ever think you'd intentionally be awkward Mark!? :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Andystiletiling

    Andystiletiling Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Burnley
    Has the new area been screeded higher than the Kitchen area, or level with it?...if your putting ins boards and elec ufh down this is going to leave the new area around 12-14mill lower unless its already been compensated for..which over 45 sqm is gonna add up to around 60 bags of slc..
     
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  19. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Lancashire
    Unfortunately it has been a mistake some unwitting people have made in the past :(
     
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  20. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    To be honest we are not trying to be awkward but most of the tilers on here will tell you that most floor prep done before they arrive is not up to standard and you have to consider whether the contractors are trying to get themselves a get out of jail free card by being able to blame others if it is not up to standard .
     
  21. CheshireChap

    CheshireChap Active Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    new floor screeded to same height as kitchen. All areas will be covered with durabase and an additional 6mm insulation over the kitchen. So the only difference in height will be the insulation and the adhesive for it - some of which will be compensated for in the new room by the high points.

    Hence our guesstimate of an average of 8mm over whole area.
     
  22. Andystiletiling

    Andystiletiling Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Burnley
    6mm insulation boards plus adhesive plus ufh cables plus an encapsulating slc over wires adds up to a lot more than 8mm..
     
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  23. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    You'll have the 6mm plus the 5mm of latex needed to encapsulate the heating element.
    I'd speak with Dural but a thin or void free decoupler might be the best way to go with 6mm thick/thin tiles
     
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  24. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    It's turned into a big pour.
     
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  25. CheshireChap

    CheshireChap Active Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    I did say an 'average' of 8mm. The UFH cables, as you know, sit inside the dural, not proud of it.

    It is a big job, we've no illusions about that - there's another 35m2 of hall etc tiles once the new/kitchen bit is done.
     
  26. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

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    Isle of Wight
    Is it ditra heat or vario pro? I'm not aware of Dural doing one like those
     
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  27. Andystiletiling

    Andystiletiling Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Burnley
    Me neither...any link?
     
  28. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    SW London
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  29. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

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    Isle of Wight
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  30. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
  31. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    SW London
    Tut tut :D
     
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  32. CheshireChap

    CheshireChap Active Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
  33. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    Gloucester
    Not sure there's any such company that just levels floor's your best bet would be another tiler doing it but imo you will be opening a massive can of worms....
     
  34. CheshireChap

    CheshireChap Active Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Why a can of worms, Andy?
     
  35. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    i can't blame the tiler here for not wanting to get involved levelling and preparing this floor. I think the comments suggesting he's no good are a bit out of order. He may well be an excellent tiler.
     
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