Dot And Dabbing At Its Best.

[AMC]

View attachment 77248 View attachment 77249 started a bathroom today. The tiles came of easily, wonder why.

That's a classic !!!!!

 

[Chalker]

The best thing was that if any bedding out was to be done. It would have been the bottom of the wall!
They made a wall that was out of level, even more out of level. Probably started off out of plumb, then carried on from there.

Might put this refurb into Octobers jotm, if there is one.

 

[Old Mod]

Might put this refurb into Octobers jotm, if there is one.

Oh there will be!

 

[swanman]

still it stayed on
thats what counts

 

[Chalker]

Only just!
Took them off with a shovel. 90% came off whole with no adhesive stuck yo the tile.

 

[david mccullough]

sorry for adding my six pence late
looking at the pictures , the tiles seem to be of a brown/biscuit and in my experience, these tiles are a nightmare to fix, fix a tile on and let it stay for a minute, pull it off and adhesive has stuck to the tile.
put it back on let it stay on for 15 minutes and pull it off again and the tile comes off clean, no adhesive on it at all!!
I've taken to priming the back of these types of tiles, also spreading adhesive on both wall and tile.
while dot and dabbing is professionally ok. to do and if the there's a problem you'll never win a battle saying that the tiles were properly stuck.

 

[On one]

So if I'm reading right D&D tiles in a wet area,large format porcelain tiles and on floor tiles is professionally ok?

 

[david mccullough]

sorry i was just generalizing that dot and dab was a method, it shouldn't be used in wet areas.
having said that, in theory if done properly, on surfaces that don't move, settle. so water can't get in behind tiles then there should be not reason why dot and dab couldn't work

 

[One Day]

sorry i was just generalizing that dot and dab was a method, it shouldn't be used in wet areas.
having said that, in theory if done properly, on surfaces that don't move, settle. so water can't get in behind tiles then there should be not reason why dot and dab couldn't work

Oooh! Controversial!
BS5385 ("the" standard) states that it's not a suitable fixing method.
Yet go back 40+ years and it was. PJ tiler - who many here know - he fixed tiles to the CIS building in Manchester using d&d and they're still up there. Think it was the late 60's.

IF - (big IF) you don't exceed the depth at which a cement adhesive will weaken, and IF you get good enough coverage - then all reasonable tilers on here would say, OK it'll work.

The question remains: if your walls and floors are so bad you need to d&d then you're doing it wrong before you even begin! I would always sort out before tiling so that I can spread, comb and stick. Easy, fast (SAFE) and profitable.

We all bed up and build out a bit now and again but let's keep it sensible eh?!

 

[Spud]

I know a builder who took a tiler to court for dotting and dabbing tiles at a premiership footballers house , the tiles were 1.2 x1.2 builder got an expert in from the T.T.A in to act as an expert witness , the court was told by the expert that dotting and dabbing tiles wouldn't solely cause a failure and the builder lost the case