Will it fail? :)

[Bolter]

Just completed a floor to ceiling bathroom for a customer. Looks very good, and everyone is pleased

The floor was already tiled when I arrived yesterday, and looked pretty shonky but its not for me to comment. Customer said to me half way through today "the plumber did my floor, Im not 100% happy with it, but it will have to do" and we both looked at it meaningfully for a second or two.

It was only then that I realised the massive creaking noise when you stand on 2 or more areas of the floor. So I start to investigate, and it seems the plumber has laid 5mm ply, then UFH and then tiled on top. Im guessing he hasnt screwed 150mm centres and the ply is way too thin. I reckon he put a screw in each corner!

Customer kept saying the plumber called his work, the rustic effect. If by rustic, he means fail, then he is right.

It amazes me how they get away with it. I wonder how much a plumber charges for tiling, and more importantly why do people pay if its not right??

:mad2:

 

[Alan.P]

Sounds to me you know the answer already, probably will fail, grout will deffinitely go by what your saying, tiles might or might not. Ask her how much

 

[Bolter]

Sounds to me you know the answer already, probably will fail, grout will deffinitely go by what your saying, tiles might or might not. Ask her how much

it was a rhetorical question but yea Im expecting a call soon to put it right.

Met a plumber the other week who told me how easy my job was. I asked him what he uses to prime his walls with, and he said "what's primer?"

Amazing.

 

[Alan.P]

it was a rhetorical question but yea Im expecting a call soon to put it right.

Met a plumber the other week who told me how easy my job was. I asked him what he uses to prime his walls with, and he said "what's primer?"

Amazing.

He's probably gotten away with it by using a tubbed addy that's self priming, lucky sod whether he knows it or not.

 

[DHTiling]

PVA>>:incazzato: more than likely..

 

[CJ CERAMICS]

it was a rhetorical question but yea Im expecting a call soon to put it right.

Met a plumber the other week who told me how easy my job was. I asked him what he uses to prime his walls with, and he said "what's primer?"

Amazing.

most plumbers i know say that they will PVA the walls for me:yikes::yikes::yikes:

 

[doug boardley]

no doubt in my mind, failure Plumber called me today to see if I could tile a shower area for him he'd prepped it all with..... yes you've guessed it..PVA!!!

 

[Dan]

Ouch. That doesn't sound like a cheap floor to replace and do correctly. And I can almost guarantee if it's creaking now, it'll not withstand the UFH providing heat. Wonder what adhesive he's used? - Do you know that?

 

[Sean Kelly]

Get your own back on the plumbers. Do a short plumbing course and you could then take on plumbing jobs. I've got another 2 small plumbing jobs lined up this week. Bolter, hopefully you will get a call in a few months time to do the floor.

 

[Alan.P]

PVA>>:incazzato: more than likely..

Nah mate, he asked what primer was, although you could and would say that PVA wasn't & IS NOT

 

[kilty55]

although some plumbers are good at tiling most ive met are not and my own opinon on it is if someones looking for a really god job then they contact a tiler direct if they dont have too high expectations of the final job and hope it looks alright this is why plumbers get a lot of tilin jobs i think.its abit like calling a glazier to fit your new carpet:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Bolter]

Ouch. That doesn't sound like a cheap floor to replace and do correctly. And I can almost guarantee if it's creaking now, it'll not withstand the UFH providing heat. Wonder what adhesive he's used? - Do you know that?

Yea well thats story number 2. The UFH was on 33 deg C when I turned up there Tues, I asked him if I could turn it down quite a bit as its probably not healthy for me let alone the floor

As for adhesive, I have no idea. That was my first thought. Maybe he used that special wykes pre mixed grout/adhesive, the stuff legends are made of!

NOT!:mad2:

 

[jay]

problem is plumbers and builders norm see job first and due to lack of work take on tiling jobs .sign of the times :8:

 

[davy_G]

Let them tile it the first time, we will sort it out properly the second!

 

[devonmark]

Customer kept saying the plumber called his work, the rustic effect. If by rustic, he means fail, then he is right.:mad2:

Uneven = rustic....

 

[Rob Z]

Customer kept saying the plumber called his work, the rustic effect.
:mad2:

That's a good one! What I hear over here a lot is "It's within spec."

When I say "OK fine, which specs are you using?" , I just get a blank stare.:incazzato:

 

[Bolter]

Uneven = rustic....

That's a good one! What I hear over here a lot is "It's within spec."

When I say "OK fine, which specs are you using?" , I just get a blank stare.:incazzato:

yeah lol, tiles with 5mm joint one end of the room and nearly butted up near the door is rustic.

Also cutting a huge c shape out of the tile making sure it leaves a full inch gap round the architrave is also rustic actually maybe he considered it a sizeable expansion gap

 

[LM Ceramics]

Get your own back on the plumbers. Do a short plumbing course and you could then take on plumbing jobs. I've got another 2 small plumbing jobs lined up this week. Bolter, hopefully you will get a call in a few months time to do the floor.

exactly what ive done booked a 4 day plumbing course nearly finished a full bathroom installation ive also added a mixer shower and changed bath and sink wastes not the easiest to start with and its took me 3 weeks im sick of waiting on plumbers and plumbers that think they can tile so ive done the opposite and ive been given funny looks off plumbers in the plumbing merchants when im asking for advice one lad turned round and said get a plumber in instead" it winds them up

i dont know everything about plumbing but im still learning

 

[Rob Z]

yeah lol, tiles with 5mm joint one end of the room and nearly butted up near the door is rustic.
:yikes:5 mm on one end and tight on the other end....and we just finished a floor where we sweated bullets trying to get things as perfect as possible...the tiles were ~12" X 12", warped/cupped/out of square, and we fought with each and every one of them. Once we were done and the floor was grouted, the max variation along the joints was about 1/16". I was relieved that it looked as good as it did because I was worried the whole time we were setting this floor. So it kills me to see a bozo like this getting away with murder and caring not one whit, while we :mad2: trying to do the best job possible with the tile and the substrate that we have. Sorry for the rant but it has been a real PITA the past few weeks.


Also cutting a huge c shape out of the tile making sure it leaves a full inch gap round the architrave is also rustic actually maybe he considered it a sizeable expansion gap

NICE!