Tile Levelling Spacers (Again)

[Filip]

I know from reading old posts on here this can be a sensitive subject - but I have some observations.
I have used tile lash on a brick bond kitchen floor with 600 x300 and thought it was a fantastic product but I realised I was struggling because of the shape of the base bends up and you have to press down as you push the wedge in so I am fighting it all the time.
So I thought I would try shmox after reading on here about them.
They seem massive compared with the lash ones and I am finding that they push the tiles apart when you push in the wedge but lash ones did not do this I do not know if it is because the small lash ones have a smaller surface area on the wedge or if it is their curved nature or the fact that I am using the shmox ones on smaller 300x300 tiles.
Also I brought a tool this time but the angle of its push seems wrong as it is not square on the the wedge.

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Tile Leveling Systems - FerramentaWeb - https://www.ferramentaweb.com/en/7-tile-leveling-systems
I use these @Filip, night and day to the lash clips. They break so easy with a light tap with your rubber mallet. Just keep the sides of your tiles clean.
D

 

[Simon Dale]

I dont know who uses clips. We only use them on thintiles IMO to be a good tiler there is no need ? I see on facebook the kids (LOL) use them on everything.

 

[hmtiling]

I use shmox and rls on 600's and up or anything with a bow in it. Some of the cheaper ones tend to twist a bit in the joint opening it up. Rls are the best for not doing this. Try not tightening them too much and the direction the wedge goes in makes a difference too. As in if you're tiling against a batten or straight edge have the wedge going towards it as not to push the tile away if that makes sense.
I'll not bite on the clip debate Simon

 

[Qwerty]

The clip debate in a mathematical formula.... .....

Without clips
Time to lay = xx
Charge customer = ££

Profit = ££


With clips
Clips = £
Time to lay with clips = x
Charge customer = £££ (or ££ if you're swallowing the cost of clips)

Profit = ££x (£££x if charging for the clips!)

 

[Filip]

Just keep the sides of your tiles clean.
D

Thanks but thats not easy for me

I dont know who uses clips. We only use them on thintiles IMO to be a good tiler there is no need ? I see on facebook the kids (LOL) use them on everything.

Ahh but you are missing something -I am not a good tiler - I am not even a tiler.

I use shmox and rls on 600's and up or anything with a bow in it. Some of the cheaper ones tend to twist a bit in the joint opening it up. Rls are the best for not doing this. Try not tightening them too much and the direction the wedge goes in makes a difference too. As in if you're tiling against a batten or straight edge have the wedge going towards it as not to push the tile away if that makes sense.

Yes I have noticed the direction movement and started holding a wedge around the expansion gap on the first two rows.The RLS ones look that sane design how come they don't do it.
I may be overtightening because I used the lash ones by hand and a block of wood so this time i brought a tool so I am going mad with it !
Another issue I am getting used to is leaving enough room for the wedge before it hit the other wedge

 

[sp96]

Levelling clips on a 300x300????

 

[GoneGuy]

Just use a spare wedge as a guide for distance to put the clips in so you don’t push another wedge

 

[Filip]

Levelling clips on a 300x300????

That's right I am using levelling clips on a 300x300 tile. Please read post number 6 comment number 2

 

[Filip]

Just use a spare wedge as a guide for distance to put the clips in so you don’t push another wedge

I have got the hang of it now I have got used to their size. Do they really need to be so big. I also found out that for me its better to tap the clip on one side and then the other to snap it off.

 

[Filip]

Here you go

 

[GoneGuy]

I have got the hang of it now I have got used to their size. Do they really need to be so big. I also found out that for me its better to tap the clip on one side and then the other to snap it off.

Everyone has different methods, your way is good if you have just used the clips and no spacers so the clips are tight to the tile

 

[Brian the Tile]

TILERS ?

 

[Filip]

Everyone has different methods, your way is good if you have just used the clips and no spacers so the clips are tight to the tile

I am using 1.5mm clips and 3mm spacers that I use like a peg - so I don't push them in as a flat cross. I am far too messy to use the clip as the spacer.

 

[GoneGuy]

I am using 1.5mm clips and 3mm spacers that I use like a peg - so I don't push them in as a flat cross. I am far too messy to use the clip as the spacer.

That's sometimes the best as the clips will snap out better.
Before putting the clips in run a margin trowel along the tile to remove a little adhesive so that when the clip goes in and then the tile, little to no adhesive pushes through the grout line.
Also keeping the clips clean helps with them breaking clean.

 

[macten]

First few tiles may move apart a little when tightening - just use a little chock of wood and a rubber mallet to tap them back to where they should be. Once you've got a few down and they're all locked together they won't pull apart anymore but a keep an eye on them.

 

[Filip]

Yes the rubber mallet came out after 3 tiles

 

[Filip]

TILERS ?

What does that mean

 

[Bespoke Tiling]

I use the tile levelling spacers from DC Trade they’re only £5 for 100 which is their own brand version similar to Mustangs. Tile Levelling System Archives - https://www.dctrade.uk/cat/tiling/tile-spacers/tile-levelling-system/