Lightweight adhesives

[Dumbo]

Does anybody use lightweight adhesives .
Is all a bit of hype considering most will improve the background weight carrying capacity anyway.
Are they better to handle etc .

 

[One Day]

Magix almost exclusively now. Easier to handle, mix, carry, apply, clean up.
What's not to like?

 

[Qwerty]

Magix
What's not to like?

The glass beads!

I did used to but dont bother now

 

[One Day]

The glass beads!

I did used to but dont bother now

I thought the fish like them?

 

[One Day]

Really, if they used something environmentally sound it would be much better. It is a spoiler.
I know other adhesive manufacturers offset their pollution by charging us more though.

 

[Boggs]

I loved Magix, only thing I regret is buying 8 bags when I got 2 pallets of Setaflex.

 

[GoneGuy]

I had a few bags of magix when it was in a trial period. I enjoyed using it but it comes down to availability for me

 

[Dumbo]

Magix almost exclusively now. Easier to handle, mix, carry, apply, clean up.
What's not to like?

What about price point compared to your next favourite , and do you get the coverage it claims and what's the shrinkage like

 

[One Day]

Not noticed any shrinkage. Price is the same kg per kg compared to sandy adhesives I think.
Coverage, I reckon 10kg makes same as 15kg. I've not really worked it out tbh.

 

[Flintstone]

I don't mind magix, I like Its coverage but the could never swap to it because the beads are to annoying and it doesn't go far enough.

 

[hmtiling]

Magix shrinks. Used the rapid for sorting a bad wall. Hairlines everywhere. Sorted another wall in same room with isomat ak20 and not a crack in sight. Around 8mm build out in deepest parts for both.

 

[hmtiling]

Kerakolls Green credentials don't reach as far as tilemaster it would seem

 

[One Day]

Magix shrinks. Used the rapid for sorting a bad wall. Hairlines everywhere. Sorted another wall in same room with isomat ak20 and not a crack in sight. Around 8mm build out in deepest parts for both.

I've not used Rapid yet. I'm using it with large format so everything is locked up and clipped.

 

[hmtiling]

I'm aware all cement based adhesives do shrink. Just some more than others

 

[One Day]

I think the general idea is; the more water in the mix, the more shrinkage?

 

[Flintstone]

I always exceed the suggested amount of water

 

[Dumbo]

With magix I know it's a 10k bag but how many litres does it contain and many litres does it make when its mixed , does it make more than the volume of the bag and the volume of water combined ?

 

[Flintstone]

I always exceed the suggested amount of water

@Glynn it's alright disagreeing but I'm certain I'm not the only one to mix up to the texture I want to suit the application.

 

[J Sid]

we used to do this with an adhesive, won't name the make. We did this because it was unusable if mixed with correct water amount. Had a failure, company rep came out and burnt out his mixer trying to mix it correctly.
failure turned out to be the product didn't do what it said it was capable of in then end, not to much water.
the adhesive I'm using at the moment has two water amounts depending on what you are Tiling, walls or floors

 

[Flintstone]

I was using ultra spes the other week on a fair size floor and I thought I would measure the water out to get a consistent mix throughout, which I always do in that situation but first time with this product. I was using a good 6 litres. Recommended is 5.2 - 5.5.

 

[J Sid]

found that with the CTD ultra.
now using bal, yes more expensive but like it and is right to work with the water they say use.

 

[One Day]

I add a little more water to Magix when using very large format.
I think the recommended 4.2ltrs (iirc) makes it a little too firm for my liking.

 

[One Day]

BAL don't make a lightweight do they?
Supercover was ok but the white was useless.

 

[Flintstone]

I've avoided BAL for many years but I've been using it a bit recently for a certain contact and I find it nice to use. They don't do a light weight tho. Infact there latest adhesive is marketed as 'gel' and shares characteristics with the pourable one so that's gonna be the opposite of light !

 

[J Sid]

yes, sorry, wasn't talking light weight adhesive.

seen the new bal semi rapid in action and if you shop around it can be got for the same price as rapid, but for my normal working methods it is to slow.

 

[hmtiling]

I was using ultra spes the other week on a fair size floor and I thought I would measure the water out to get a consistent mix throughout, which I always do in that situation but first time with this product. I was using a good 6 litres. Recommended is 5.2 - 5.5.

White spes is unusable at correct water amount

 

[Dumbo]

Ive used grey spes for the first time last week got to admit didnt read the ratios but it mixed up beatifully really nice to handle

 

[Spare Tool]

White spes is unusable at correct water amount

Use it a lot nowerdays found 6L per bag spot on for both white on walls and grey for floors..