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[Waluigi]

SIGMA FRESA DIAMANTATA ......

 

[Old Mod]

SIGMA FRESA DIAMANTATA ......

Errrrr ok!

 

[Waluigi]

Just rolls off the tongue

 

[Concrete guy]

On the @ATSDiamondTools website, it says "If you’re looking for a solution for 6,7 & 8mm holes specifically for porcelain tiles we recommend the wax filled bits over these M14 drills."

We do say that, and that's our experience based almost entirely on customer feedback.

However, remember that tiling and tilers makes up only a very small percentage of our customer base. We sell to all sorts of trades and also a couple of larger resellers, so we probably sell more wax filled drills to Plumbers (and other second fix trades) than to tilers. Especially on a commercial scale.

Using drill bits on grinders is a relatively new thing to the UK and many people are either not aware or not comfortable using a grinder to drill.

So on the whole the wax filled drill bits are a better all round product for fixing type holes, for all trades in all circumstances.

For a tiler fixing extremely hard porcelain and used to using a grinder to drill, an M14 6mm is probably more appropriate. It's one of the reasons companies like us sell multiple products that appear to do the same thing. people (or sometimes a particular job) may suit one over another.

 

[Cranbrook]

We do say that, and that's our experience based almost entirely on customer feedback.

However, remember that tiling and tilers makes up only a very small percentage of our customer base. We sell to all sorts of trades and also a couple of larger resellers, so we probably sell more wax filled drills to Plumbers (and other second fix trades) than to tilers. Especially on a commercial scale.

Using drill bits on grinders is a relatively new thing to the UK and many people are either not aware or not comfortable using a grinder to drill.

So on the whole the wax filled drill bits are a better all round product for fixing type holes, for all trades in all circumstances.

For a tiler fixing extremely hard porcelain and used to using a grinder to drill, an M14 6mm is probably more appropriate. It's one of the reasons companies like us sell multiple products that appear to do the same thing. people (or sometimes a particular job) may suit one over another.

I'm going to order a 6mm grinder drill but from you and compare the both for myself

 

[Concrete guy]

For tile holesaws, you still can't really beat the electroplated bits. Cost per hole and convenience they just beat most of the alternatives.

It's only when you need to consistently drill harder or thicker product that other bits may become more appropriate.

These dry VB bits were never designed for porcelain, they are designed for sedimentary stone, but someone decided to start marketing them for porcelain.

 

[Cranbrook]

For tile holesaws, you still can't really beat the electroplated bits. Cost per hole and convenience they just beat most of the alternatives.

It's only when you need to consistently drill harder or thicker product that other bits may become more appropriate.

These dry VB bits were never designed for porcelain, they are designed for sedimentary stone, but someone decided to start marketing them for porcelain.

Is this the same for the polishing /grinding discs you sell? I.e. That electroplated are better for porcelain ?

 

[Concrete guy]

Is this the same for the polishing /grinding discs you sell? I.e. That electroplated are better for porcelain ?

It depends exactly what you're trying to achieve and what you're polishing.

 

[Cranbrook]

Im new to the polishing game but im putting an order in with you imminently so im going to order a polishing disc.. I mainly work with porcelain so if you could direct me on what I should get to have a play around with...

 

[Concrete guy]

Im new to the polishing game but im putting an order in with you imminently so im going to order a polishing disc.. I mainly work with porcelain so if you could direct me on what I should get to have a play around with...

I'll run through some of the more common applications in tiling:-

Electroplated diamond hand pads #50 to #400 grit. These are ideal for tidying up edges and envelope cuts on individual tiles. You wouldn't want to be doing much quantity with these, they are a handy tool to have in the kit.

Silicon Carbide discs:- The reality is you can polish pretty much anything with these, they are probably the most appropriate product for a tiler that does a bit of polishing every now and again.

The very low grits #40,#60,#80 you're grinding. #120-#320 is honing. #400 upwards is varying degrees of polish. #1200 is very fine, often used in glazing to polish glass.

Silicon carbide grits do not relate to diamond grits. Diamond pads generally range from #30 to #6000 whereas the same range is covered in SiC discs in #40 to #1200. (#1200 SiC is about #6000 diamond).

The main advantage of diamond pads (the round one you use on a polisher) is longevity, they last far longer so are more economical when doing lots of polishing, particularly wet polishing.

Dry diamond pads are simply less messy (more dust, less water) cost more than wet pads, generally don't last as long but easier to use on site. You don't have to dress like a fishmonger to use them.

Any specific questions just ask.