Tanking Hardie

[magga]

Got a job to quote for a customer who has specified that she wants the floor tanking. It's not a wet room or anything but she wants belts and braces approach, which is fair enough.

The subfloor is t&g floorboards, so was thinking of overboarding with 6mm Hardie and then tanking with paste and taping joins.

Would this be the best approach, or can anyone recommend a better one?

Cheers

 

[Old Mod]

How about Homelux floor tanking on a roll?
Never used it, but I've seen it.
I've used the wall tanking on a roll, easy enough to use.
And u just overlap it by 50-100mm from memory.

 

[magga]

Would this have any benefit over tanking paste? Just I've already got some tanking paste and tape, so would be the cheaper option.

I've not used the Homelux floor tanking either, so don't know a lot about it.

 

[Old Mod]

Its just a thick cloth, cheap version of Keba if u like. Fine notch trowel, overlap & done. Tile instantly.

 

[magga]

Ah right, yeah I've used Keba.

Ok will look at that option, thanks.

 

[One Day]

Homelux = roofing membrane

 

[magga]

What would you recommend impish?

 

[One Day]

Wedi 12mm with 610 adhesive to joints and over the washers. Fast, easy and waterproof.

 

[magga]

Not used wedi before, but have used Kerdi and am I right in thinking it's very similar?

 

[Old Mod]

I'll tell u why I'd consider it.
It's not a wet room, it's fast, no height build up and u can roll it 100mm up wall to form a skirting.
It's function is just to waterproof.
Minimal joints and you're going on to a solid base.
I agree, it probably would be a very good option with Wedi.
But u gotta stick and screw every board, waterproof every screw hole and joint, use their tape to form a skirting and every joint is a weak point, including skirting.
And in comparison cost wise, Wedi will cost a small fortune for what it is.
Just how I would look at that situation that's all.
Anything more complicated like UFH or whatever and I wouldn't even consider it.

 

[One Day]

Go on then. 3 fall wins! Good points well made...

 

[Old Mod]

Hahaha not about winning mate, just seemed easiest solution for that situation.
1-0! Hehe

 

[magga]

Yeah makes sense.

I assume you mean to put the Homelux over the Hardie? In which case you've still got a 6mm ish height increase.

 

[Old Mod]

Sorry my understanding was u were gonna board it anyway cos of floorboards.
Yeah would only put it over Hardie.

 

[magga]

Yeah the Homelux website seems to suggest it can go over any wooden or concrete floor, but I wouldn't like to put it straight onto floorboards.

 

[Flintstone]

Just board it as normal and tank it with your tanking kit, if that's what your farmiliar with, it works, end of.

 

[magga]

Just coming up to doing this one now, 3fall, you mention about overlapping the joints, they sell some tape for the joints, is this not really needed? They also sell internal and external corners, would they not be needed either? I know you said you've never used it, so maybe you can't help!

Thanks

 

[Old Mod]

Just coming up to doing this one now, 3fall, you mention about overlapping the joints, they sell some tape for the joints, is this not really needed? They also sell internal and external corners, would they not be needed either? I know you said you've never used it, so maybe you can't help!

Thanks

I haven't used their system in a little while Magga,
Trying to recall, I'm sure on walls you were instructed to overlap 50 mm
But if they have a tape, then I would say from a 'covering your own backside' point of view, use the tape for the joints.
But I struggle to see the difference between overlapping and jointing.
They are both a cloth of equal thickness after all.
Preformed corners are only really a convenience thing. You can make them out of the tape.
As with Schluter, you can buy preformed or not.
I suppose with the preformed there's more of a belt and braces cos they're seemless, where as when you make your own, the overlap is a weak point.
But no, preformed corners are not a requirement from memory.
Maybe not much help, but that's the way I'd see it.
Hope this has been a little help.
Did find this, very basic PDF on installation.
http://homelux.co.uk/downloads/Waterproof Matting_Leaflet.pdf

 

[Flintstone]

The brand homelux fills me with zero confidence

 

[Old Mod]

It definately works, used to use it few years ago.
And for this particular situation is ideal imo.
It's only being used for a safety net, not a front line defence against moisture ingress as such.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

The brand homelux fills me with zero confidence

A statement that could have a bit more explanation !

 

[Stef]

It definately works, used to use it few years ago.
And for this particular situation is ideal imo.
It's only being used for a safety net, not a front line defence against moisture ingress as such.

Homelux matting definitely works..

 

[magga]

So, do you use the tape and preformed corners, Stef?

 

[Stef]

So, do you use the tape and preformed corners, Stef?

It was the 1st time I had used it for a while.
The walls are tanked with Aquadefence & Mapei tape in the corners.

 

[magga]

I've got some Tilemaster self adhesive tape, I'm sure that'll be fine?