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Kitchen refit gone wrong (poor tiling)

Discussion in 'Tiling Forum' started by Little Boy Blue, Jul 4, 2018.

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  1. Little Boy Blue

    Little Boy Blue Active Member

    Location:
    Renfrewshire
    Hi Folks

    Long story short, a friends firm have been doing a kitchen reno for me along with some other work. I let them go to it whilst on holiday, and i'm not best pleased at the tiling I've returned to.

    I've attached a couple of pics & wee video links, am I being over critical? (I don't think so, it's ruining the effect of my new kitchen). Now it turns out the floor was tiled, before the kitchen was fitted, to give a neat finish, also meaning, without taking it all back out, it's not an easy fix if at all.

    I have a meeting on Friday with the main contractor & tiler, would appreciate any comments.

    Along with the uneven tiles, at least 6 of them are intermittently moving slightly on ocassion, or making a popping sound when walking on them (I know that doesn't bode well)

    Genuinely at my wits end.... :-(

    20180704_164542 (1) - https://vimeo.com/user76846935/review/278347436/af2890a938
    Floor - https://vimeo.com/user76846935/review/278349973/49345c63ad

    20180704 164139 - https://ibb.co/bx5UUy
    20180704 164248 - https://ibb.co/jfkDpy
     
    Little Boy Blue, Jul 4, 2018
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  3. Plan Tec Tiling

    Plan Tec Tiling Administrator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Wimborne, Dorset
    Not the worst, but could easily have got it right from the start by using levels, checking lippage or even using levelling clips.

    I would have to try hard to get it so bad.

    How flat was the substrate before it was tiled?
     
    Plan Tec Tiling, Jul 4, 2018
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  4. Little Boy Blue

    Little Boy Blue Active Member

    Location:
    Renfrewshire
    I believe the joiner used 18mm ply (on top of chipboard flooring)
     
    Little Boy Blue, Jul 4, 2018
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  5. Little Boy Blue

    Little Boy Blue Active Member

    Location:
    Renfrewshire
     
    Little Boy Blue, Jul 4, 2018
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  7. Plan Tec Tiling

    Plan Tec Tiling Administrator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Wimborne, Dorset
    And tiled straight onto the ply?
     
    Plan Tec Tiling, Jul 4, 2018
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  8. Little Boy Blue

    Little Boy Blue Active Member

    Location:
    Renfrewshire
    I have no idea, and a question I will ask

    What should the process have been?
     
    Little Boy Blue, Jul 4, 2018
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  9. Plan Tec Tiling

    Plan Tec Tiling Administrator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Wimborne, Dorset
    Overboard wooden floor with tile backer board after checking its free from deflection. Tiling to ply hasnt caused your issues, poor workmanship looks at fault here. Tiling to ply could cause other issues in the future though
     
    Plan Tec Tiling, Jul 4, 2018
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  10. Bathfix Bob

    Bathfix Bob Professional Tiler

    Or use Quickstep, no faffing round with all that endless donkey prep, dirty grout, lippage, slippy tiles etc.
    Waterproof click vinyl.

    Hey hang on this is a tiling forum...of course floor tiles ...cough
     
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    Bathfix Bob, Jul 5, 2018
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  11. Little Boy Blue

    Little Boy Blue Active Member

    Location:
    Renfrewshire
    I don't know if this is relevant or not, on checking dome of the rubbish that's been left behind. The adhesive that appears to have been used on 60cm x 60cm floor tiles, is Mape Grip D1. wall tile adhesive? (Could this be a major factor in the movement?) 20180705_155943.jpg 20180705_160001.jpg
     
    Little Boy Blue, Jul 5, 2018
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  12. Plan Tec Tiling

    Plan Tec Tiling Administrator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Wimborne, Dorset
    If it had been used to fix the tiles it is a complete disaster. However it looks from the photos like your tiler has used the ready mixed adhesive bucket to mix up the grout (alot of us do similar). If it has been used to fix the tiles it will result in a failed floor sooner or later and yes, could well have helped cause your issues.
     
    Plan Tec Tiling, Jul 5, 2018
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  13. Little Boy Blue

    Little Boy Blue Active Member

    Location:
    Renfrewshire

    Thanks for that, there's 2 empty tubs, of the same stuff (One as you say appears to have been used to mix the grout in, but not the other, which only confirms my suspicions, that's what he's used, given it was only a floor that was being tiled (no walls)
     
    Little Boy Blue, Jul 5, 2018
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  14. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    Again he could of used it to mix floor adhesive . We all used to do it years ago when we also did a lot more small wall tiling . Tilers very rarely bought buckets,Now any time I need one I have to buy one .
     
    jcrtiling, Jul 5, 2018
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  15. Little Boy Blue

    Little Boy Blue Active Member

    Location:
    Renfrewshire
    Possibly, a bit odd you'd take away the floor adhesive tubs and leave 2 empty wall tile adhesive tubs on a job with no wall tiles
     
    Little Boy Blue, Jul 5, 2018
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  16. roadking

    roadking Professional Tiler

    Location:
    London / Luton and Wexford (Ireland)
    Floor adhesive doesn’t come in tubs. It comes in bags and has to be mixed in buckets...... hence the wall tile adhesive buckets......
     
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    roadking, Jul 5, 2018
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  17. Little Boy Blue

    Little Boy Blue Active Member

    Location:
    Renfrewshire
    Ok, thanks for that
     
    Little Boy Blue, Jul 5, 2018
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