Exceeding substrate weight limits.

[DHTiling]

Let's see how honest you are....


Have you ever exceeded the limit a wall substrate can carry .... even if only by a small amount.. say 2kg's

 

[Protilers]

I have!!!......with no probs........but would not take the p..................................

 

[mattle40]

Yep

 

[DHTiling]

Don't forget to vote

 

[mattle40]

I'm on the app n canny vote 

 

[The D]

Yes I have lots of times but always with the clients prier knowledge and consent

 

[Protilers]

Dave......you know better than almost every single....Moderator, Admin or member of this site........BS is a guideline.......NOTHING MORE......the job I am on at the mo the plasterers convinced the client that the tiler would "WANT" the walls plastered!!!!!!!!.......and they charged accordingly.........thank the gods they are Porcel-Thin from F.E.E.T..........that said BS is a guideline.........

all the best

Lee

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I voted yes, but I will be going to the TTA confession on Sunday. I just hope I don't get Excommunicated.:yikes:

 

[Protilers]

I voted yes, but I will be going to the TTA confession on Sunday. I just hope I don't get Excommunicated.:yikes:

they wont even let me join.......you are.......well you can imagine......hehhehehheee

 

[DHTiling]

they wont even let me join.......

Why..?..

 

[gamma38]

Yes i have in times gone by, but nowadays no. Touch wood i have plenty of work all through recommendations and a lot of those i get because of being thorough.

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Ps before i get slammed i am not saying anybody else isn't thorough

 

[Protilers]

Why..?..

because when I enquired I refused to give them finacial details.....and that was that as they say!

 

[DHTiling]

because when I enquired I refused to give them finacial details.....and that was that as they say!

It is only to see which payment band you would fall in :lol: .... but a recommend from a fellow TTA member will help

 

[Protilers]

It is only to see which payment band you would fall in :lol: .... but a recommend from a fellow TTA member will help

I have loads of them Dave....(hopefully you included)... heheheheehe......I think my posts prove the quality of my work (daily updates n'all).......why do they need to know my finances?

I would join just to get it more respectable in the industry.....but to be honest.......it has never stopped me earning a living and from what I have heard it dont help you make one!

not to knock it.........its all we have!

all the best

Lee

 

[charlie1]

I once seen 15 mm thick granite stuck to a plastered wall with no apparent problems, one piece was actually on the ceiling section of a long alcove. I'm well aware of the reality of what can be achieved in real world. There are others factors that would dictate how much if at all you would want to breach the limits such as if the wall was plumb and if the bottom row of tiles where tiled on top of the floor tiles. We all take our chances but lets put it in to perspective and I hope no one uses the old extreme scenario here with babies having tiles fall on there head in the bath. We are sticking tiles not landing aeroplanes.

 

[charlie1]

I have loads of them Dave....(hopefully you included)... heheheheehe......I think my posts prove the quality of my work (daily updates n'all).......why do they need to know my finances?

I would join just to get it more respectable in the industry.....but to be honest.......it has never stopped me earning a living and from what I have heard it dont help you make one!

not to knock it.........its all we have!

all the best

Lee

whats the point?? I just downloaded the TTA picture and had it stuck to my van!








joke

 

[gamma38]

I once seen 15 mm thick granite stuck to a plastered wall with no apparent problems, one piece was actually on the ceiling section of a long alcove. I'm well aware of the reality of what can be achieved in real world. There are others factors that would dictate how much if at all you would want to breach the limits such as if the wall was plumb and if the bottom row of tiles where tiled on top of the floor tiles. We all take our chances but lets put it in to perspective and I hope no one uses the old extreme scenario here with babies having tiles fall on there head in the bath. We are sticking tiles not landing aeroplanes.

Did i not mention i'm a part time pilot charlie:lol::lol::lol:

 

[Rookery]

I've gone over with porcelain but equally I've turned down stone onto newly plastered walls. Agreed, the BS is merely a guideline and there has to be a tolerance.

 

[John Benton]

It's all about risk assessment surely.

The spare tyre on my car says it should be run at no more than 50mph. If I do 55mph is it likely to burst. I don't know the answer. Mine may not, but my mates tyre could and cause an accident.

Will the plaster hold 22kg? Well it might do in this house but it won't in another!!

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

they wont even let me join.......you are.......well you can imagine......hehhehehheee

dont worry lee i have asked them loads of times to let tilers come to there meeting to put there opions forward what would we want from a tile asosaion but they just dont care what we think or want with only 90 tile fixer out of 60000 i think there missing out

 

[Dougs Third Go]

i doubt you'll find any long standing tiler that hasn't exceeded weight limits from time to time. I did a little test on a skimmed plasterboard with a porc tile, left it a couple of days and tried taking it off....it pulled a big hole in the plasterboard but was still stuck to the skim..weird!

 

[Ajax123]

I once seen 15 mm thick granite stuck to a plastered wall with no apparent problems, one piece was actually on the ceiling section of a long alcove. I'm well aware of the reality of what can be achieved in real world. There are others factors that would dictate how much if at all you would want to breach the limits such as if the wall was plumb and if the bottom row of tiles where tiled on top of the floor tiles. We all take our chances but lets put it in to perspective and I hope no one uses the old extreme scenario here with babies having tiles fall on there head in the bath. We are sticking tiles not landing aeroplanes.

Hmmm. And how would you feel if your tiles collapsed on the wife whilst she was in the bath?? jooooookkkkke!!

 

[AliGage]

Hmmm. And how would you feel if your tiles collapsed on the wife whilst she was in the bath?? jooooookkkkke!!

Some days i wish!!

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

i have been thinking back over 30 plus years of tiling and have seen a few failures over the years but cant think of one where weight of the tiles was the cause of failure many over causes how about you

 

[The D]

Never had it myself only ever heard of problems from adhesive reps.

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

Never had it myself only ever heard of problems from adhesive reps.

well maybe a few reps could exsplain how they came to that conclosion .what were the signs how do you determan that wieght is the cause after ruling out other causes

 

[Peter]

When were the last weight limits written? I'm sure adhesive and material technology has come on a bit since then

 

[The D]

When were the last weight limits written? I'm sure adhesive and material technology has come on a bit since then

The thing is the limits are set by the people that make the backgrounds and have nothing to do with the adhesive.

 

[The D]

I am not convinced that a tile stuck to a wall is putting the same amount of stress on the background as one stuck to a ceiling. I can understand manufacturers need to put the limits in place to cover themselves but that dose not mean that if you go over by a few kg the background will automatically fail

 

[John Benton]

I am not convinced that a tile stuck to a wall is putting the same amount of stress on the background as one stuck to a ceiling. I can understand manufacturers need to put the limits in place to cover themselves but that dose not mean that if you go over by a few kg the background will automatically fail

Exactly right Dean, They have to give a figure for people to work to, but it will also have a tolerance to allow for people who will always go that extra bit, cos that's what people do, isn't it?

I refer back to my tyre analogy, where the tyre will not automatically burst/puncture at 50mph. It is a recommendation that you do not drive faster than that speed, but some people will.