Price Check Marble, Porcelain 7 Mosaic

[Sean Kelly]

I'm struggling with a price on this one.
Bathroom with 3 windows 57x100 (all at the same level).
Bath, toilet, basin.

Walls: 22sqm of Crema Marfil 60x30 brickbond with a marble mosaic running around the room at about 1.2m. Also the same marble mosaic vertical strip at the head of the bath and another at the basin. There are also 2 external corners to cut around.

Floor 4 sqm to be tiled with Brera white 90x45

There is an awful lot of wet cutting I know, and there is a massive great dane that has already had the nose bitten off a gas fitter and bitten someone's hand.

Any help please? Cheers Sean

 

[Old Mod]

Gun?

 

[Sean Kelly]

Gun?

I probably wouldn't get paid if I shot the customers dog, but thanks anyway. I'll need to make sure to be packing a couple of Stanley knives in my pockets!

 

[Old Mod]

How are u finishing the external edges Sean?
How high is the window cill Sean, do u know?

 

[John Benton]

Scooby snacks?

 

[StevieBoy]

Sleeping tablets - for the dog of course.

 

[White Room]

Good solicitor if the dog bites.....

 

[Andy Allen]

Lol.........7 post and they have mostly been about the dog..

 

[Old Mod]

Hahaha @Andy Allen i JUST said exact same thing to my wife! Haha
Poor Sean, not much help are we mate! Haha

 

[Sean Kelly]

How are u finishing the external edges Sean?
How high is the window cill Sean, do u know?

I did not take the window height when I went round. The customers did not know what tiles they wanted at that stage. I just took measurements and gave them the room dimensions.

External edges have not yet been discussed.

 

[Sean Kelly]

Why did I have to mention the dog

 

[widler]

£1100 top end around here for that, do it in the week

 

[Andy Allen]

£1100 top end around here for that, do it in the week

What about the dog?....

 

[Old Mod]

Ok mate, just wondered wher window fell in relation to border, (so kitch!)
You're not considering mitring externals are you mate?
Do you know if it has pre polished edges?
That can be done on site easy enough, just takes time.
Brittle stuff Crema Marfil! Have u used it before?

 

[Old Mod]

U suppling anything Sean?
D'u have a time scale in your head mate?

 

[Sean Kelly]

Ok mate, just wondered wher window fell in relation to border, (so kitch!)
You're not considering mitring externals are you mate?
Do you know if it has pre polished edges?
That can be done on site easy enough, just takes time.
Brittle stuff Crema Marfil! Have u used it before?

Will talk them into chrome trim.
Tiled with crema marfil but only on floor.

 

[widler]

What about the dog?....

Id do a lot of dogs in a week, takes me back to Ibiza 86

 

[peteablard]

There's a dodgy dog on a job I've recently been on, it only seemed to go for the sparky though which is fair enough!

 

[AD Ceramics]

Will talk them into chrome trim.
Tiled with crema marfil but only on floor.

No no no trims....polished edge it has to be mate the give it a small arris with a hand pad....can you not sling a saddle on the dog and get it carrying for you?

 

[peteablard]

Ive just done 4 marble bathrooms in one house, 3 fully tiled and one half height. It was a rare job where I was told price wasn't an issue just do whatever looks best. All external corners were bull nosed and polished and the builder and customer were chuffed to bits. So much so that I've got 4 more to do exactly the same in the next property he's currently building! I don't like trims with stone but have had customers insist on it in the past

 

[Old Mod]

Yeah that's where I was leading Sean, as above mate def no trims.
That's almost as tacky as mosaic border!
Why do people do that? Haha
Less is more, everyone knows that!

 

[peteablard]

You could mitre it. The problem with a lot of natural stone jobs is people think it looks quality but they don't have the budget to have it installed in a way that will make it look amazing. I can't remember his name but there as a guy who used to come on here who did a lot of stone work and his mitres and corners were phenomenal. Lived down Worcester way I think

 

[gamma38]

I hate trims with natural stone, come to think of it i just hate trim full stop. Mitres or bullnose for me.

 

[Old Mod]

You could mitre it. The problem with a lot of natural stone jobs is people think it looks quality but they don't have the budget to have it installed in a way that will make it look amazing. I can't remember his name but there as a guy who used to come on here who did a lot of stone work and his mitres and corners were phenomenal. Lived down Worcester way I think

Not sure about mitring Crema Peter, edges break out so easy, if he was gonna keep fem mm back and create birds beak might get away with it.
Depends on thickness too!
I'm for square polished edges or slightly rounded off.
But that's just how I'd do it.

 

[peteablard]

Not sure about mitring Crema Peter, edges break out so easy, if he was gonna keep fem mm back and create birds beak might get away with it.
Depends on thickness too!
I'm for square polished edges or slightly rounded off.
But that's just how I'd do it.

Sorry Marc got side tracked from the original question and was talking about stone in general obviously if the stone won't allow it the yes you'd have to leave a few mm on the edge, it still looks great though. Going slightly off topic agin I'm just waiting for confirmation of dates then will be booking Brno for next year!!

 

[Old Mod]

@peteablard

Hahaha kool mate!!
See Vali stuck it to Jorge in Japan! Hehe
Danny had a blinda too!!
Cal and Bradley were non too shabby either were they!
Ooops! Haha

Anyway!!
Those bathrooms u did were stunning mate!
So u got nothing to apologise for! Haha

 

[Sean Kelly]

The stone is from Topps so quality wise i don't know what it's like.

I don't do much stone work and I've never done mitres or bull nosing.

I was thinking 8 days labour. Addy grout & sealer etc. £1600

It's in High Wycombe.

My worry is the handling, cutting and size of the floor tiles in such a tight area.

 

[Old Mod]

I wouldn't have said that was enough Sean.
Personally I'd want more.
Until u get definitive answers on things like external edges and around the window mate, think it's a tough price to call.
All your cutting will be done outside, all on wet saw.
Takes time. In & out, in & out!
It's not something that can be rushed.
But I don't know client and I don't know what they expect of you.
Just be cautious Sean, nothing worse than doing some of your best work and loosing money!
Trust me I know! Haha
Is mosaic and field tile same thickness?
Do you have somewhere outside close by to work?
There won't be any sanitary ware in will there?
If there is, get rid!
You can template the floor tiles, transfer template outside mate. Then your not lugging lumps of marble in and out!
You can't do this kinda work in a confined space properly, you need room to move!
But it's not my job it's yours!
But really keen to see progress tho Sean!

 

[Sean Kelly]

Room should be empty, but it is a trek to get outside. House is on top of a windy hill and start date is December!
Not sure about thickness of mosaic, but I normally use 'Beava' mosaic backing from Topps.

I almost want to over price this one because I have a feeling that the customers want to cram so many features into this room.

p.s. The dog is kept outside!!

 

[widler]

The stone is from Topps so quality wise i don't know what it's like.

I don't do much stone work and I've never done mitres or bull nosing.

I was thinking 8 days labour. Addy grout & sealer etc. £1600

It's in High Wycombe.

My worry is the handling, cutting and size of the floor tiles in such a tight area.

Dam, I keep disagreeing with Marc obviously it depends on areas and clients, but
I think that's a good price for it, I'd buy a bullnose bit of ATS and some polishing pads, cost you around £100, I got some for some limestone steps I did , cracking bit of kit