Movement Joints In General and BS5385

[pendleh]

Hi there

Would like to tile to BS5385. Anyone know whether it mentions movement joints. Can movement joints be incorporated in walls as well?

Howard:stupid:

Hi Again. I really dont want any disaster jobs when Im tiling. What are the most common failures to avoid. I know weber list problems any they have missed.

Best Wishes

Howard

 

[DHTiling]

hi howard..have a read of this it will tell you all you need to know mate....

[DLMURL]http://www.landscapespecification.com/mediastore/FILES/111221.pdf[/DLMURL]

 

[Dan]

Of course it mentions movement joints.

 

[Unregistered]

Hi Dan

Really need to buy this BSI!!

Care to elaborate on standard? Its practical implementation.

Thanks

Howard

Of course it mentions movement joints.

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Hi Dan

Any topics in forum devoted to joining the Tile Association

Thanks

Howard

Hi Dan
Really need to buy this BSI!!
Care to elaborate on standard? Its practical implementation.
Thanks
Howard

 

[grumpygrouter]

Do you really want to buy a copy of this - it ain't cheap!!

Grumpy

 

[DHTiling]

howard..you will find all the info you need on expansion joints in the link above or on the schluter site.. http://www.schluter.co.uk/

 

[DS Tiling]

Hi,

Generally speaking for walls don't abut tiles against anything. For domestic use leave at least a spacers width and fill with a decent silicon. The stated size in BS is 6mm but it looks awful. There are other times when a 6mm gap is recommended such as bridging different substrates and 3-4.5m centres vertically and horizontally. Kitchen worktops, internal corners and shower trays are all common areas where people fail to leave any movement joint.

 

[pendleh]

Hi DS Tiling

So for an internal corner BS says you should leave 3mm from the tile to the corner of the wall. Any detailed guides on movement joints appreciated.

Thanks for the help.

 

[pendleh]

A 2mm spacer

 

[DS Tiling]

I wouldn't get too bogged down with this for domestic tiling. On an internal corner I would leave a gap of a few mm when placing the first wall of tiles into the corner, don't abut the tile into the corner. The second wall forming the corner I would leave a spacers width around 3mm from the other tiled wall and fill the joint with silicon, not grout. Ideally the tiles should be able to slip behind each other if that makes sense. The BS is 6mm, that will have been set for a reason but the aesthetics aren't acceptable to most customers. Have a look around though and see how many corners you see grouted and cracked out. In areas of high expansion and contraction like sun rooms make sure you leave sufficient sized silicon joints relevant to the substrate. Schluter do some preformed movement joints for walls but i rarely use them, hope that is of some use.

 

[pendleh]

Hi

Thanking you.

 

[Dan]

We don't have any topics devoted to TTA no mate. Most tilers don't even know it exists according to our poll we did just a week or two ago. It seems very few that do know it exists don't think the benefits are great enough to fork out. Plus you need to be tiling for a certain amount of time before you can register.

If you do a good course you'll learn all about movement joints and the standards related to tiling.

 

[pendleh]

Hi Dan

Thanks for replying. Yes you have to have been tiling for at least two years. So it isnt really a priority for me at the moment. I trained at PTS but nothing mentioned about movement joints!! My background is IT so I like all the technical stuff. What I am more interested in is NVQ 2 in tiling.

Best Wishes

Howard