120m2 Garage Floor Tiling Price Check

[moomarine]

Hi again all

If you were going to quote for a 120m2 garage with 600 x 600 porcelain tiles what would your m2 rate be? The garage is newly built and will be latexed over the screed. Included in this 120 m2 area is:
- 70m2 garage floor
- 20m2 hallway + toilet and cupboard
- 30m2 of tiled upstand around the wall of garage area. (2 x 600 tiles high)

My reason for asking is basically the guy is absolutely minted and this job will look awesome on the portfolio especially if he lets me take a photo of the garage housing the Fararri, Lamborghini and jag (This is no joke) doubt hel allow a photo of that though! Also if I get the job and they are happy with the work it will get me a lot more work with his contractor who is on the search for a new tiler. So I think what I'm asking is would your m2 rate be reduced and how much by to get the job? my current m2 rate varies dependant on the job and anyone who has read my previous posts on here about pricing knows I'm still learning and have made mistakes on the charging too little front!!

 

[Ian]

If it's a nice flat floor and you're sure he's not dangling the "there's more work to follow" carrot, then £25 per m2 would be a decent labour only price, £30 if you included adhesive and grout.

 

[moomarine]

It's is a nice flat/level floor which will be even better once they put the latex on it. So the labour only price you say is £3000. See where I get my prices all wrong is that I look at that price and thinks it's too expensive but that is based on my previous line of work as I would only earn £3000 for a whole months work before tax and I can't see this taking anywhere near that long. Maybe I'm just undervaluing myself?

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Yes we're all millionaires!
Mess this up and you'll be the one who's paying. People with money don't just give it away they want value and a standard of excellence that for some may take a few years to attain.

 

[bcd-87]

If it's a nice flat floor and you're sure he's not dangling the "there's more work to follow" carrot, then £25 per m2 would be a decent labour only price, £30 if you included adhesive and grout.

I'm with Bri mate.. That's a lot of work don't do it for nothing.. And don't believe the BS of I have lots of other jobs and I have lots of friends who want work done..
As for the contractor best ask why he's looking for a new tiler ?? Has the other guy left because of payment issues or just too busy..

 

[moomarine]

I'm with Bri mate.. That's a lot of work don't do it for nothing.. And don't believe the BS of I have lots of other jobs and I have lots of friends who want work done..
As for the contractor best ask why he's looking for a new tiler ?? Has the other guy left because of payment issues or just too busy..

Fair one! I agree with that! The contractor is the employer of my brother in law and uncle and apparently he's alright but again not going trust in anything like that and just take it as the single job and see what happens.

 

[Just Rizzle]

this is not an easy job hes putting a few ton of metal over your tiles so there has to be no voids beneath these tiles or they are going to break. you also say its a new laid floor and flat has he laid it in sand and cement or is it anhydrite? ether way you need it to dry out , or your trapping moisture beneath the tiles which can cause them to debond.
as your new its easy to see pound notes. but this type of job can bite you if it goes wrong how long a guarantee are they after 2 yrs? 5 yrs?
I personally would recommend a decoupling membrain

 

[moomarine]

I think it is sand and cement, it was my Mrs uncle who did it so will ask him later. As for the decoupling membrane sounds like a good plan. Is it always used for car showrooms etc or just EXTRA protection against the tiles breaking under the weight of the cars? Not that this makes any difference but I'd hope his farrari and lambo are made of some sort of feather light carbon fibre so I'd hope I'm heavier than the cars going on it! Lol

 

[Andy Allen]

If it's a nice flat floor and you're sure he's not dangling the "there's more work to follow" carrot, then £25 per m2 would be a decent labour only price, £30 if you included adhesive and grout.

Didn't you do one with an f1 car sat on it ?

 

[Italy]

I think it is sand and cement, it was my Mrs uncle who did it so will ask him later. As for the decoupling membrane sounds like a good plan. Is it always used for car showrooms etc or just EXTRA protection against the tiles breaking under the weight of the cars? Not that this makes any difference but I'd hope his farrari and lambo are made of some sort of feather light carbon fibre so I'd hope I'm heavier than the cars going on it! Lol

FERRARI, FERRARI,FERRARI,FERRARI FERRARI . not farrari ahhahh

 

[Italy]

It's is a nice flat/level floor which will be even better once they put the latex on it. So the labour only price you say is £3000. See where I get my prices all wrong is that I look at that price and thinks it's too expensive but that is based on my previous line of work as I would only earn £3000 for a whole months work before tax and I can't see this taking anywhere near that long. Maybe I'm just undervaluing myself?

Starting already with the wrong foot

 

[Ian]

Didn't you do one with an f1 car sat on it ?

I did mate, I'll dig the pics out.

 

[Ian]

 

[Andy Allen]

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I really, really, really, ....like that.

Tilings not to bad as well..

 

[moomarine]

So bri did you use decoupling membrane or just tile it direct to the sand and cement?

 

[Ian]

So bri did you use decoupling membrane or just tile it direct to the sand and cement?

Direct to screed, it was a fibre screed. If I were to do the same job here and now, I'd probably use an antifracture mat.

 

[moomarine]

Direct to screed, it was a fibre screed. If I were to do the same job here and now, I'd probably use an antifracture mat.

So would this be OK to use:
http://www.diy.com/departments/home...9054!&ef_id=V1saGQAABWalW2yF:20160610195049:s

 

[dave l and l]

maybe shop around, c t d will be able to beat that price, in fact so will tops i think

 

[moomarine]

maybe shop around, c t d will be able to beat that price, in fact so will tops i think

Cool I will have a shop around, don't have cud account as not one near me.

 

[peteablard]

Why decouple if there's no UFH?

 

[moomarine]

Why decouple if there's no UFH?

So are you saying direct to screed then? I think it's because of the weight of the vehicles going onto the tiles.

 

[Ian]

Why decouple if there's no UFH?

Yeah if there's no ufh don't bother uncoupling as Pete says. The reason I said I would if I were to do my job again was, it was a heated floor and the customer and designer had me use 2mm joints.

 

[moomarine]

So sorry to be a pain but I'm getting slightly confused now. Can I confirm that I am OK to just tile straight onto the SLC that is on top of sand and cement screed? The floor has no underfloor heating? It's just the weight of the cars that are a problem?

 

[peteablard]

So are you saying direct to screed then? I think it's because of the weight of the vehicles going onto the tiles.[/QUOTE
A decoupler is to protect against lateral movement, the screed expanding and contracting as it heats and cools, it wont make any difference with regards to the weight being applied from vehicles

 

[peteablard]

So sorry to be a pain but I'm getting slightly confused now. Can I confirm that I am OK to just tile straight onto the SLC that is on top of sand and cement screed? The floor has no underfloor heating? It's just the weight of the cars that are a problem?

That's fine to tile direct. I've tiled loads of car showrooms on both new and old screeds and never decoupled.

 

[moomarine]

That's fine to tile direct. I've tiled loads of car showrooms on both new and old screeds and never decoupled.

Ahh cheers for that I didn't read Bri's post properly! So it's just the heat when the membrane is required! So I quite alright to tile the porcelain onto the screed. The guy I'm doing it for bought the same tiles that a local car garage used for there show room, so they should be fine.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

How long has the screed been down?

 

[moomarine]

How long has the screed been down?

Not 100% but I would say about 2 weeks. I can find out though.

 

[Ian]

Not 100% but I would say about 2 weeks. I can find out though.

Make sure that is fully cured before tiling. You can tile earlier by using either a green screed adhesive or a decoupler as a moisture barrier.

 

[moomarine]

Hoe long for screed to fully cure usually? Not clued up on this?