Weight Limits

[afright]

Had a look at a job yesterday its a new build ,Bathroom and Shower en-suite about 50 m2 walls are all ply the tiles are 600 x 300 porcs,boxes stated the weight of 32 kg.I explained about the weight issue and he more or less said "if your'e not interested then there are other tilers that would do it" and he said "he never heard of this before and on his last two build's the tiler never mentioned this",now in a bit of a dilemma ? do I do it or walk,its a nice job and I really do not want to loose it there are another two tilers after it and I will not know until Monday if I have got the job.I am aware of the weight's what you can put on plasterboard/backer board just a bit unsure with ply always work on the same as plasterboard unskimmed,have been trolling the net is there a printable weight limit table for this so I can show customers what the limit is ?.I do believe that this house will be his home just cant understand why they dont listen.

 

[steve187]

Ply is not a good service to tile to. it bends and warps, in my opinion it will need over boarding, It would seem the builder knows everything and will just go for the cheaper option. sorry no weight limits on ply. Looks like a job that may require walking a way from.

 

[Andy Allen]

wouldn't want to tile on ply anyway, why use ply..?

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

There is a thread on here somewhere about weight limits which I started and I think sir ramic put a lust up of the weight limits.

 

[afright]

Have tried to find a thread on here but with no luck. the job was all plyed when I got there did tell him to overboard but he said the ply is ok,think straight away I got on the wrong side of the builder with what I said.

 

[Andy Allen]

the weight would be ok on ply.........but the ply is more of an issue imo..

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

I remember dan put a comment on my thread before about a tile falling off the wall and killing a kid. Might be worth printing in off and showing the customer and hope they then realise the damage it can cause.

 

[Andy Allen]

right, just looked in me book I got about weight limits, say's in there 30kg per m2 on to ply so could be just over the limit....but tiling on ply's dodgey anyway..

 

[afright]

Yes I do understand about the ply issue have had it plenty of times, worked for a hotel/pub chain for 14 years everything was ply,I always made an issue in telling them to stop using it in the shower rooms but same thing they said I dont stop moaning now everything is opening up and they keep going back to repair cracked tiles but only used ceramic a lot of the time with them.

 

[afright]

right, just looked in me book I got about weight limits, say's in there 30kg per m2 on to ply so could be just over the limit....but tiling on ply's dodgey anyway..

Yes did tell him it would be just over the limit.

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

I believe plasterboard is 32kg unskimmed but you also got the weight of adhesive and grout probably another 4kg pm

 

[afright]

I remember dan put a comment on my thread before about a tile falling off the wall and killing a kid. Might be worth printing in off and showing the customer and hope they then realise the damage it can cause.

I do believe he will not change his mind,can not understand that some people think that ply is just as good as backer board if you get a good deal theres not much in the price I had a good deal once the board was in 8 x4 sheets 12mm thick and the price at that time was £22 a sheet.

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

Backer boards in ctd 1200x600 6mm or 10mm are cheap 5.99

 

[afright]

Backer boards in ctd 1200x600 6mm or 10mm are cheap 5.99

At that price it cheaper than ply last time I used CTD they were £7 a sheet nice to see them coming down in price ,needed a sheet the other day went to tile giant £14 thats with discount.

 

[RDTiling]

There is a thread on here somewhere about weight limits which I started and I think sir ramic put a lust up of the weight limits.

I just did a quick search and managed to find this post by Oli, which lists the weight limits. It was a few years ago but still relevant...

http://www.tilersforums.com/tiling-forum/13313-tile-advice-all-questions-i-asked.html

 

[J Sid]

Do not tile onto ply. Walk away if builder will not change it. It will come back and bite you in the arse. Weight limits are not even a consideration. PLY IS A NO NO .

 

[IHB]

Didn't DPF just post up a picture of a ply steam room? Is the builder asking you to guarantee it?

 

[afright]

No not yet,he has not decided on which tiler is getting the job will know tomorrow.

 

[On one]

Yet another bullying builder proving that they know diddly squat! (The polite version)

 

[radim]

new build will shrink. and hairy cracks can appear in ply joints. no best material to tile onto....

 

[White Room]

You can tell the builder what needs to be done until the cows come home, recently done a job for a so called know it all and in truth he knew diddly.

Ply is a frightning material and some is cheap imports where it delaminates.

Your choice at the end of the day but not one I would be doing.

 

[White Room]

I just did a quick search and managed to find this post by Oli, which lists the weight limits. It was a few years ago but still relevant...

http://www.tilersforums.com/tiling-forum/13313-tile-advice-all-questions-i-asked.html

The float and set should be 20kg not 28kg....IMO

 

[gamma38]

I would be walking away.

 

[J Sid]

Not walking, running.......

 

[afright]

Well the builder never got back to me yesterday as he said he would ,was just a waste of time driving 40 miles to look at the job and he did not have the respect to let me know,maybe its what I said to him that he didnt like ,well I hope it all goes bandy for him,as I'am sure it will with that much ply on the walls.