Weight limit

[Sean SML Tiling]

Just had a lovely 42m bathroom come in but with a couple of issues. Customer has built thw new walls but because they were so bad he has had it built out with plaster. Customer has bought 450x450 porcelain which weighs 18kg pm. Im worried about the wight limit as it will be around 23/24kg pm after addy. Bs recommends 20 but do you think its ok to continue?

 

[gamma38]

In a word no, BS says 20 and i stick to it without compromise. Just explain to your customer and back it up with written evidence if you need to, I always carry written evidence with me nowadays, it saves time.

 

[mattle40]

I don't think I would
How thick is the plaster?

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

Well I already explained to him its exceeded but he said he still wants to continue. I was thinking about asking him to sign to say hes happy to continue.

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

By the sounds of it its probably about 10mm in places thats my concern

 

[mattle40]

Well I already explained to him its exceeded but he said he still wants to continue. I was thinking about asking him to sign to say hes happy to continue.

I'm not sure on the whole signing a waiver idea. I think it still boils down to you being responsible
You have identified it to be unsafe so if you proceeded and there was an accident, ultimately it's your fault

 

[The D]

In a word no, BS says 20 and i stick to it without compromise. Just explain to your customer and back it up with written evidence if you need to, I always carry written evidence with me nowadays, it saves time.

you must walk away from a lot of jobs then m8

 

[Andy Allen]

how are you getting to 23/24kg m2..? addy and grout should only be about 2kg per m2..

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

A few tilers have said its fine to continue as its not loads of the recommended limits but its 50/50 imo

 

[gamma38]

you must walk away from a lot of jobs then m8

Not at all, most customers i come across with this issue are more than happy for some extra prep work to make it ok. If they are not then i am probably better not getting involved with them anyway.

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

They were looking at ceramic to start with so I guess mentioning to go for that instead of the porcelain that would do the job

 

[The D]

Not at all, most customers i come across with this issue are more than happy for some extra prep work to make it ok. If they are not then i am probably better not getting involved with them anyway.

So if I had a job tiling a bathroom walls 18m2 on to plaster and my tiles was 22kg what would you suggest I do about it?

 

[gamma38]

So if I had a job tiling a bathroom walls 18m2 on to plaster and my tiles was 22kg what would you suggest I do about it?

Do it right, or let someone else do it wrong

 

[The D]

do it right how i am asking you

 

[charlie1]

Don't you just love it when the customer tells you that its all nice and smooth / flat because they have had it plastered.

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

If it was a nice flat wall id probably use 2kg pm of adhesive thays y I have estimated 3/4 kg

 

[Andy Allen]

If it was a nice flat wall id probably use 2kg pm of adhesive thays y I have estimated 3/4 kg

prep the walls to get them flat, then you would be within the weight limit......better than packing out with the adhesive and risk going over the recommended bed thickness..

 

[The D]

Do it right, or let someone else do it wrong

Talk is cheap LOL

 

[DHTiling]

Just tile it... as long as it's bonded well to substrate and not loose or hollow.. crack on..

Well all love 100% jobs but in the real world it is not so , you know your limits and what can and cannot be done.

 

[Sean SML Tiling]

Cheers dave. The wall is sound and well secured but was a little unsure.

 

[gamma38]

Talk is cheap LOL

Isn't it, do you get bored easily????????????

 

[DHTiling]

Talk is cheap LOL

Isn't it, do you get bored easily????????????

Ding Ding round 1 .. :lol:

 

[The D]

Isn't it, do you get bored easily????????????

I’m just intrigued what extra prep you would have me do on a job for the sake of 2kg but if you are just flapping your gums and giving it the big one then that’s ok there are quite a few on this forum at the moment that do not like having there posts queried.

 

[charlie1]

Do it right, or let someone else do it wrong

Couldn't have answered it any better, let someone else stick there neck out. If your busy enough and don't need it then let someone else take the risk.

 

[gamma38]

I’m just intrigued what extra prep you would have me do on a job for the sake of 2kg but if you are just flapping your gums and giving it the big one then that’s ok there are quite a few on this forum at the moment that do not like having there posts queried.

Not what i was saying or meaning, your just picking what i wrote to the inth degree, at what weight limit would you deem it acceptable then, if 2 kilo's is ok why not push it to 4 kilo's or 10 kilo's, there is a limit for a reason. Sure i understand you can get away with things but if something ever went wrong you wouldn't have a leg to stand on. To answer your question though, depends on the given job, the situation etc, remove plaster and overboard, stud then board, remove plaster and dot and dab, there are loads of options. As i said most of my customers are more than happy to have the extra prep done, if they are not then i don't really want to be working for people like that.

 

[Protilers]

hahahhaaaha........think of how easy it was if it was not plastered!!!!........he spent money making a mess!

 

[DHTiling]

If i can chip in without being chewed up ... standards are a suggested limit that is deemed to be safe... as a tiler you have to take each job at face value and decide if you are willing to go say that extra 2kg...

Now on another note .. PB these days is a capable of holding more weight than currently suggested in BS and B/gypsum will probs be upping that limit with some luck .


So before knocking back a job , think!!!!


ok just my 2 penneth, will shut up now ..

 

[gamma38]

If i can chip in without being chewed up ... standards are a suggested limit that is deemed to be safe... as a tiler you have to take each job at face value and decide if you are willing to go say that extra 2kg...

Now on another note .. PB these days is a capable of holding more weight than currently suggested in BS and B/gypsum will probs be upping that limit with some luck .


So before knocking back a job , think!!!!


ok just my 2 penneth, will shut up now ..

I totally agree Dave, but if you install a better substrate it's a win win all round i say. Plus you get the benefit of a bit of extra work, and a customer that recommends you on the basis of being thorough.

 

[DHTiling]

I totally agree Dave, but if you install a better substrate it's a win win all round i say. Plus you get the benefit of a bit of extra work, and a customer that recommends you on the basis of being thorough.

What if the customer will not budge... would you go 2kg over ... I would if i was ok with the substrate prep..

 

[gamma38]

What if the customer will not budge... would you go 2kg over ... I would if i was ok with the substrate prep..

I see what your doing here :lol:, to be fair i wouldn't nowadays, as i said to deano i made my cut off point and i stick to it. Maybe sometimes to my detriment but most people round my way are more than happy to go with it once you explain your reasons. Plus if you prep it it usually ends up flat, not builder flat