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Ajax123

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Hi guys, looking at a bathroom design im doing and the customer has asked if I can install a niche behind the bath. Its an external wall.

Can this be done, obviously it can be cut out and a lintle installed. But what about sealing the cavity, what materials to be used etc.

Cheers, luke.

that might require building regs approval as a "structural" alteration. Don't get caught out.... As for the rest.... No idea. :)
 

gamma38

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Could you not just build a feature wall incorporating said niche or niches above the top of the bath on the existing wall, I did some recently that were only 80mm deep in the same situation, using studwork. Sort of surface mounted boxes if you like, but posh. They looked good in the end and the customer got there design.
 
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Just finished this Marble bathroom..Two Niches in the shower & TV going at the end of the bath & LED lights around the floor. :thumbsup: Clearview3 013.jpg Clearview3 031.jpg
 

John Benton

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I have to say that I am with Dave, to cut into the block work of a building just to get a pigeon hole is not a good idea...... to cut into block work (50mm ish) without breeching the caveity is fine...
(like putting in boxes for instance)...
but that don't make a usefull pigeon hole (its not deep enough!) IMO.

Lee

It is if you only rifle shampoos from hotels, they are small and would fit very nicely. :lol:
 

Ajax123

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Good god, really alan.
Thats total overkill on the planning department , bloody hell :)

If it were a DIY job you would probably do it and no one would be any the wiser but as its a pro job it could come back and bite you... Not saying it is a building regs matter but there is the structural consideration of putting a lintel in a supporting wall as well as the opening up of the cavity which will affect the insulation performance...

Just check first is what I'm saying. Technically it would be a structural alteration which would be notifiable under part a of the building regs.
 
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It is if you only rifle shampoos from hotels, they are small and would fit very nicely. :lol:

John........HAVE YOU BEEN FOLLOWING ME?..........londoners dont steal everything you know!!!!!!!!.......
I personally have left all the road signs and drain covers in place......Recently....well, since the scrap metal merchants brought in the new regs at least!!! hhehehehe

nite nite john

Lee
 

John Benton

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John........HAVE YOU BEEN FOLLOWING ME?..........londoners dont steal everything you know!!!!!!!!.......
I personally have left all the road signs and drain covers in place......Recently....well, since the scrap metal merchants brought in the new regs at least!!! hhehehehe

nite nite john

Lee

You know Lee, if it ain't nailed down these days it's gone. Saying that my plumber left a sink outside a customers for 5 mins with the new taps he'd fitted and pikeys had the decency to take them off and leave the sink, so he only had to buy the taps :mad2:
 
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he is lucky they did not put a hammer through the sink and just grab the metal........then he would have needed a sink too!......that is a more usual practice!......Trust me....
I was on a job in chelsea a few months ago and all the heating system was drained down.....the contractor reomved all the rads
(those big fat ones like when you were in school (well maybe not when you were in school....you proberbly had a small fire you all sat around!)...hehhehehhe....anyway.....
they were taken into the front garden...masked up and sprayed with hammerite................painter went outside to remove the masking and guess what......there was no need.....
the whole lot had been removed while he was inside eating his sarnies!!!!


hehehehehheheheheee

Lee
 
I could be wrong dave, i don't want to argue, but do electri/gas boxes do exactly what you have said above ?
Bridge and block and cause these thermal issues, or am i seeing things when they leave a big hole in rhe side of houses and put a plastic box in it?

I guess as the box is not breaching the internal wall so there shouldn't be any thermal issues once the box is sealed to the extrior wall. It has to be fitted with a vertical DPC behind it on the interior wall as well.

Also according to my house builders bible the box is allowed to be fitted without a lintel so no structural issues there.

Diggy :0)
 

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