Tiler or Plumber that tanks a wet room?

[Mikek1981]

Hi I M new to this and Tiling. I was made redundant and am starting a tiling course it's a Wall & Floor tiling diploma level 2 (Not NVQ) it's 2 days a week for a year.

Apparently they say that they don't cover natural stone installation as it's too expensive.

And they don't cover tanking a wet room as it's a plumbers job....I thought a tiler would learn how to do this though?

Any advice would be appreciated!

Mike

 

[hmtiling]

Never ever ever let a plumber do the tanking

 

[Dumbo]

Tilers job . Who are you doing it with.

 

[One Day]

Sounds like your course tutors need bringing into the 21st century!

 

[One Day]

I wouldn't trust a plumber to make my coffee yet alone waterproof anything.

 

[Mikek1981]

Ah right haha maybe I need courses in tanking wet rooms after this year long course! It's the chameleon school of construction. I'd like to learn the full job not just half a job. So I'm not sure why they don't teach tanking? It's annoying because they cover bricklaying and plastering up to level 3 but tiling only to level 2. I have read now that the level 3 incorporates tanking wet rooms and Tiling them....I'm unemployed so I'm not sure how I'll pay for the level 3 if I ever find anyone that teaches it! I'm pretty disappointed!

 

[Dumbo]

Why Not do intense course with the school at the bottom of this page .

 

[Mikek1981]

The course I'm enrolling on for this tiling level 2 diploma is fully government funded, unfortinitely I don't have a spare few grand to do a good fast track course. And I'm the type of person that needs more than 10 to 15 days training for everything to sink in to my head. I just feel it's not long enough to learn a trade 2 or 3 weeks for me. I do feel more comfortable with the 2 days a week for a year...and I'll have to learn tanking wet rooms and underfloor heating systems on other courses if I can get funding for them.

 

[Waluigi]

Mike- which type of work do you expect to do?

If you plan on domestic work and are expected to tank a wall above a Bath or shower tray then a simple paint on tanking will suffice. It’s incredibly simple to do and doesn’t require any specialist training whatsoever.

Tanking in wet rooms is a little more involved and requires far more knowledge and a certain amount of time invested in what you are trying to do so a short course or days training from a Manufacturer will help.

 

[Mikek1981]

I think the best thing I can do is do the year course and learn what I can, then see if I can get in with a tiling company or bathroom fitting company as a trainee maybe and get an NVQ for site work? I'm 38 now, so maybe this will go against me, it shouldn't but we'll see.

I'd love to go self employed, but I think it's best to get in with a company first to master the art, and get my confidence and speed up!

There are a lot of tilers in my area that seem to be self employed, so there will be a lot of competition...

What would you do starting out as a beginner?

 

[Andy Rhodes]

Whos the training provider your usings awarding body because NOCN CSkills level diploma covers tanking in unit 098 preparing background surfaces not so sure about the City & Guilds level 2 without checking, but I know about the one above because I teach it

 

[GoneGuy]

why not enrol in @Schlüter-Systems Ltd introduction to wetrooms course

 

[Andy Rhodes]

Mikek just been on the website of the company you are using & your tutor should be covering tanking it's in the course criteria.

 

[Mikek1981]

Hi Andy cheers for research on the course, it's the level 2 NOSN cskills diploma, I have read that tanking wet rooms us covered in the level 3 diploma but they don't offer that.

The training provider is chameleon school of construction, is that unit 098 you mention in the level 2 diploma? Maybe who ever told me wet room installation isn't covered is wrong, hopefully!

Thanks Adey I'll definitely look at that Schluter course along with this one I'm doing

 

[Andy Rhodes]

To my knowledge nobody's offering a level 3 qualification at present because it's to expensive to deliver. looking on there website the tiling a wall unit end test missing also

 

[Chalker]

Go for a manufacturer course. The trouble with most colleges is that they are years behind the actual trade.

 

[Andy Rhodes]

I Came off the tools 18 months ago & still fix most weekends so can't be that much of a dinosaur

 

[Mikek1981]

Ah right, what should the end test unit involve? Surely they must deliver all units, or cskills wouldn't issue the qualification?

Hopefully it's a typo and theyve forgot to put it on the website. There is an online test and stuff throughout the course it says on the website it's called evolve or something like that.

Hopefully the level 2 will be enough then, I should be half decent after a years training, they say they get you out doing work experience too so maybe that could lead to employment

 

[Andy Rhodes]

The qualification is a 50/50 course you have 7 theory end test & 7 practical timed end test all of which you must pass to gain the qualification ,the course I deliver is 3 days a week for 18 weeks & you must be in on benefits or pay for it yourself,in all its a start up qualification so yes definitely look for other forms of training offered by companies like ardex, bal,schluter,they all offer training .& Remember your never to old to learn m8

 

[Schlüter-Systems Ltd]

The qualification is a 50/50 course you have 7 theory end test & 7 practical timed end test all of which you must pass to gain the qualification ,the course I deliver is 3 days a week for 18 weeks & you must be in on benefits or pay for it yourself,in all its a start up qualification so yes definitely look for other forms of training offered by companies like ardex, bal,schluter,they all offer training .& Remember your never to old to learn m8

Hi Andy,

Sign up for a goodie bag at www.schluterandu.co.uk and once registered you can see the available dates for the courses. In addition the calendar also shows when were at trade events nationwide so a good opportunity to meet the consultant for your area.

Thanks, Carl.

 

[Mikek1981]

Cheers Andy I enrol this week, really looking forward to get to getting started. I'm on jobseekers they told me I was eligable for the funding over the phone. I'll definitely back up the training with one of the other courses you mention, I'll need to know everything if I do ever go self employed! I definitely will try get on with a company first though, I think there will be loads of tricks of the trade to pick up off people that have been doing it for years!

 

[Andy Rhodes]

Good luck