Tanking limits .........

[Dumbo]

With the new bs correct me if I'm wrong but do they stipulate what is a wet area . I believe in some countries a wet area is considered anywhere within a certain distance from say a shower head . Is this bs nice and ambiguous so we make it up as we go along .

 

[WetSaw]

Are you saying that BS is BS?

 

[Qwerty]

Ive always used BS electrical IP ratings as a rough guide for tanking

 

[Qwerty]

I imagine something similar will be implemented for tanking in tbe very near future

 

[Dumbo]

Surely if they are going to introduce something they should do it properly

 

[Italy]

Ive always used BS electrical IP ratings as a rough guide for tanking

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here too the same is used for electrical systems,
as far as tanking is concerned, it seems exaggerated.

 

[acaciaguy]

Are you saying that BS is BS?

Doesn’t the new 2018 revision also say that

• Tiling should be carried out by a skilled operative, who has been trained to a level of competence, certified by a recognised authoritative body, such as the TTA;

That’s me out of a job then

 

[acaciaguy]

Am I right in thinking that bs standards are not legally binding but that compliance is a demonstration of best practice with the trade. Non compliance with which might not be good against you in court etc?

 

[Dumbo]

Am I right in thinking that bs standards are not legally binding but that compliance is a demonstration of best practice with the trade. Non compliance with which might not be good against you in court etc?

They are not even building regs so there is your get out of jail free card if youre in court.

 

[acaciaguy]

Thank you. I always try my best to comply to industry standards and best practice and bs But not being someone “who has been trained to a level of competence, certified by a recognised authoritative body, such as the TTA;”

I would be some what buggered. Lol

 

[One Day]

• Tiling should be carried out by a skilled operative, who has been trained to a level of competence, certified by a recognised authoritative body, such as the TTA;

Or that could read: any numpty who has paid the fee and supplied a few photos of (someone else's) work.

(opinion my own )

 

[acaciaguy]

Do the tta not do a site visit of any kind?

 

[Dumbo]

Do the tta not do a site visit of any kind?

Tta don't train

 

[acaciaguy]

Tta don't train

So joining the tta themselves is little more than fill in a form and pay fee? No actual qualifications etc?

 

[Dumbo]

Topps tiles are members of the tta .

 

[One Day]

Topps tiles are members of the tta .

Says it all really.

 

[One Day]

Topps tiles are members of the tta .

So were British Ceramics

 

[acaciaguy]

So really there is nothing to worry about with that
“who has been trained to a level of competence, certified by a recognised authoritative body, such as the TTA;” part?

 

[One Day]

So joining the tta themselves is little more than fill in a form and pay fee? No actual qualifications etc?

To be fair, they did check on my references but only a couple of phone calls.
The TA is limited really by small membership numbers and potential numbers, as well as a severely short-sighted approach to individual tile fixers. The UK has a small number of tilers compared to the US, so we're never going to manage a "real" association with teeth that's fit for the needs of individual fixers.
In many ways, it is what it was always destined to become - a club for the industry big-wigs.
Loads of criticism gets heaped on the TA from fixers, including myself, and much of it is fair, measured and deserved.
Then again, I know many fixers who really benefit from membership, and for them, it works.

 

[One Day]

So really there is nothing to worry about with that
“who has been trained to a level of competence, certified by a recognised authoritative body, such as the TTA;” part?

No, although I am surprised that it doesn't also mention "using products such as are available from BAL at Topps Tiles"!

 

[Old Mod]

So really there is nothing to worry about with that
“who has been trained to a level of competence, certified by a recognised authoritative body, such as the TTA;” part?

The only time I’ve been certified was when I checked in to the Priory!

 

[Dumbo]

Quite funny reading the judging panel for the tta awards . Not hard to see where the prizes are going .

 

[acaciaguy]

Thank you for the replies. An interesting topic I think. Especially if clients aren’t happy and look to BS.

 

[Dumbo]

Do the tta not do a site visit of any kind?

If you take up the option if trying to get accreditation to get a certificate as to a level of competence you can do this through a citb recognised training partner which you can do by visiting the training provider or through osat ( on site assessment and training ) this will also have to backed up by photographic evidence of work you have done ( hopefully not someone else's . mind you if you use tj's jotm images they will probably just stick it in the post )

 

[acaciaguy]

Thank you for that. Is there any need if doing domestic only work. Do many people on here have any qualifications like that

 

[Dumbo]

Thank you for that. Is there any need if doing domestic only work. Do many people on here have any qualifications like that

You can do domestic work if you can breathe .

 

[One Day]

You can do domestic work if you can breathe .

And you can do site work if you're legally blind!