Price Check

[mma]

Good evening all, need to quote for a job and would like to know what prices you would give, so...
50m2 total area
6mm insulated board
UFH matting
Self level
600x600 Quartz (in discussions about the quality)
Running through 5 rooms
It's in a new build but the floor isn't great and this is labour only, with 2 of us doing the fitting.
Thanks in advance

 

[J Sid]

So your not supplying anything expect labour? Correct

 

[One Day]

Quartz as in quartz or man-made resin cack not suitable for ufh?

 

[J Sid]

So
Stick insulation boards down, may need priming on both sides depending on board.
Lay ufh
Self levelling compound over the top
Fit quartz with latex base adhesive if manufacturers say it is ok with ufh , most are not
Grout

 

[mma]

So your not supplying anything expect labour? Correct

Just labour, not supplying anything

 

[mma]

Quartz as in quartz or man-made resin cack not suitable for ufh?

Topps are supplying the tiles which they have said are suitable. We will make sure that is the case!

 

[mma]

So
Stick insulation boards down, may need priming on both sides depending on board.
Lay ufh
Self levelling compound over the top
Fit quartz with latex base adhesive if manufacturers say it is ok with ufh , most are not
Grout

Bal PTB is the adhesive which has been recommended by Topps

 

[hmtiling]

Bal PTB is the adhesive which has been recommended by Topps

Never heard that before. Should be 2 part adhesive with no water. This job sounds like a headache to me. I'd insist on 2 part and get it in writing that the tiles are suitable for ufh

 

[J Sid]

I would talk to bal, but I would say NO to BAL PTB, needs to be bottle plus powder.

I would also talk to the quartz manufacturers with regards the ufh.

Do all of this in writing or emails, I would want anything Topps staff say in writing.

If they have some tiles in stock, go and read the box, I have just done some quartz from and say laytex base adhesive only.....

 

[hmtiling]

With regard to price, unless i was very quiet, i'd want around £3k labour only. If i was very busy and it isn't a regular contact £3.5k

 

[macten]

Yeah every quartz / composite I have done has stated latex on the box. I wouldn't even bother with Topps staff and only communicate with manufacturer direct.

 

[macten]

Need sealing too won't they?

 

[White Room]

Topps Quartz is gulf stone....

 

[J Sid]

Correct

 

[hmtiling]

Topps Quartz is gulf stone....

They deffo recommend 2 part addy

 

[J Sid]

This should help.
Maybe print a copy when you go to Topps

http://www.quartzgulfstone.co.uk/Documents/GSC fixing and laying instructions.pdf

 

[One Day]

I've fixed gulf stone with ptb and no issues. I am aware topps recommend it but I'm also aware that most topps staff can't spell their own names. That said, gulf stone is the best and the only one I'd use ptb on. If you go that route, speak to Dave Wilson at bal technical and also get topps store manager to put it in writing.

 

[J Sid]

Just email them asking if its suitable for ufh, either electric or wet if used with or without an uncoupling membrane, and is it correct that it should not be used in areas of direct sunlight.
Will post there reply

 

[J Sid]

I've fixed gulf stone with ptb and no issues. I am aware topps recommend it but I'm also aware that most topps staff can't spell their own names. That said, gulf stone is the best and the only one I'd use ptb on. If you go that route, speak to Dave Wilson at bal technical and also get topps store manager to put it in writing.

Best you read the fitting instructions above

 

[White Room]

I used a mapei addy, powder and latex, the latex turned out to be sbr...£50 for both

 

[J Sid]

Not a cheap product to fix

 

[J Sid]

@mma turning into an expensive job

 

[mma]

It's only a quote so far and he has been told to do his own research about the the suitability of Quartz and ufh. We wouldn't fit anything that is not compatable!

 

[J Sid]

You can email them the manufacturers fixing instructions link and a copy of the email reply when I post it.

 

[macten]

I used a mapei addy, powder and latex, the latex turned out to be sbr...£50 for both

Weber set plus and AD250 is a much cheaper product to use.

 

[macten]

I don't see how any adhesive manufacturer would give approval for not using a 2 part when the boxes that gulfstone comes in specifically states 'use only latex based tile adhesive'

 

[J Sid]

@mma and other members interested.
This is what you need to know when fitting Quartz Gulf Stone

As per fitting instructions posted earlier, use 2 part laytex base adhesive.

Spoke to Gulf Stone Tile Quartz Floor and Wall Tiles UK - Home

just now, they told me it is ok to use with ufh but ONLY the electric wire type, NOT wet based in screed type.
They also told me stone comes pre sealed and there is no need to seal, but if you wanted to they recommend Lithofin.

So if you want to take the advice of some of these tile shop's and adhesive manufacturers who give different recommendations to that of the tile manufacturers be it at your own risk and get it in writing from them.

Hope this help's

 

[mma]

@mma and other members interested.
This is what you need to know when fitting Quartz Gulf Stone

As per fitting instructions posted earlier, use 2 part laytex base adhesive.

Spoke to Gulf Stone Tile Quartz Floor and Wall Tiles UK - Home

just now, they told me it is ok to use with ufh but ONLY the electric wire type, NOT wet based in screed type.
They also told me stone comes pre sealed and there is no need to seal, but if you wanted to they recommend Lithofin.

So if you want to take the advice of some of these tile shop's and adhesive manufacturers who give different recommendations to that of the tile manufacturers be it at your own risk and get it in writing from them.

Hope this help's

Nice one @JulianSidney

 

[J Sid]

@mma hope you feel confident enough now to put your quote together and are able to give your client details of what materials they need to buy and why.
A well presented quote with detailed fixing method and a few links to websites to back up your explanation should win you the job.
Good luck

 

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