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  1. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    I've been looking at getting a new van, not brand new, around 2015 model, there all plus vat, why is that on a used van ?
     
  2. pdc

    pdc Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    If the van was originally bought by a VAT registered person/company they would have reclaimed the VAT and would have to charge it when they sell it. Buying from a non VAT registered person the VAT wouldn't have been reclaimed so the government have their money!
     
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  3. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    North East England
    Because it's a van!
    Simple.
    You can claim it back if your registered but it's just more tax into the Governments coffers.
    Is it a private sale or a dealer?
     
  4. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    Most of them are from dealers. How come there isn't vat on an older van then that's had a few owners? What would happen if i bought a van now and paid the vat, then sold it next week, do I loose that vat money as I'm not vat registered
     
  5. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

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    Salisbury
    If the previous owner wasn't vat registered there should be no vat on it. I brought a 13 plate traffic from a Renault dealer that was 8 months old but because the previous owner was not vat registered I paid no vat .
     
  6. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Yorkshire
    But do the sellers just up the price to price the van in line with all the others
     
  7. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

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    Salisbury
    I just the same with adhesive . Let's say you are vat registered. You pay say 12 pound a bag . Claim back £2 you want to make £10 so you sell it £20 +vat =£24 you then send £4 to inland revenue or your not vat registered . Buy for 12 make ten sell for 22 .
     
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  8. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Gloucester
    Selling a van without vat is a good selling point........ just be carefull, I once had a private seller try and sell me a van + vat and he wasn't even vat registered.
     
  9. pdc

    pdc Professional Tiler Top Contributor


    After a few owners it usually ends up with someone who isn't VAT registered.
    If you're not VAT registered you can't claim back VAT on anything you buy anyway.
     
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  10. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Yorkshire
    Think I'll wait for some one else to pay the vat!
     
  11. LEE MAC

    LEE MAC Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    This is a bit of smoke and mirrors to someone who isn't vat registered.
    If a year old van is worth £12,000+vat it'll cost someone who is isn't vat registered £14,400. So it's no difference really. If your vat reged you can claim the vat back but you loose when billing customers as it makes you too expensive, if your not vat reged you don't but you gain when quoting for work. It swings in roundabouts.
     
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  12. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

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    Isle of Wight
  13. Chalker

    Chalker Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

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    Tadcaster
    It's just the same.

    A 2 year old van might be £10,000 plus vat = £12,000
    Or from somebody who isn't vat registered would be selling the van at £12,000 .
    It's just better if your registered to buy it off somebody who is registered, so you get a vat invoice and claim it back.
    Nobody's making any money out of it.
     
  14. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

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    Salisbury
    Apart from the government.
     
  15. Chalker

    Chalker Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Tadcaster
    True. But the van will have had vat included when it was new.
     
  16. Protiler 68

    Protiler 68 Professional Tiler

    Location:
    South east/kent
    Buy private
     
  17. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    Still applicable if the person you are buying of us vat registered
     
  18. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    Most vans of upto 3 years old are not privately owned.
     
  19. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    italy
    same,
    In fact, that is so.
     
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  20. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

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    Staffordshire, UK
    If a vehicle is over 5 years old there will be no VAT. So look for one of those.

    Or suck it up.

    Or register for vat.

    Or whatever.

    Lol
     
  21. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    I have my eye on a 2013 t5 kombi, gonna look in a week or so at one
     
  22. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    Think about Brexit. You won't get parts in a years time without paying huge export tax to the Germans. By an ldv I have just brought a morris minor pick up
     
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  23. Kyle Knowles

    Kyle Knowles Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Widnes
    What u thinking of getting I'm in the market for a van my self I've bin toying with the idea if one of the nissan nv200 I think it's just big enough for me coz I don't wanna be spending loads on fule I do a minimum of 70 miles a day
     
  24. Kyle Knowles

    Kyle Knowles Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Widnes
    Jesus have u bin printing money vw are well expensive van monster in Warrington have loads and loads my mate bought on last year and a neighbour has just bought one to do a camper conversion with it
     
  25. pdc

    pdc Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    I've got one. Does about 340 miles to a tank ( 50 litres). There's quite a bit of road noise but mine is on the original rock hard tyres so I'm hoping that will improve when I change them. The Nissan roof rack is rubbish so don't bother with that.
    Overall I'm pleased with it.
     
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