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I have a colleague at work who knows that I want to leave my desk job to pursue tiling. So he has allowed me to use him as a guinea pig this weekend. My payment....... Chinese and an unlimited supply of coffee and bacon butties.

I will be doing his bathroom floor. but the shape of it is.....well....... lets just say I've never come across a room this shape before. the angles are just odd and I think the builder of the house must have been on strong amphetamines. Diagram below. Tiles are 500x330 porcelain

I have ordered one of the Rubi Angle finders (smaller version of the Tiletrade T5) to help me out.

The floor is sand:cement screed which I'm going to give a quick once over with diluted APD. but its perfectly flat. Been having a play around with square notch and round notch trowels recently, looking at coverage. But I have also ordered a tiger trowel try.

So can anyone advise on the difference in area coverage between using the tiger trowel and say a 10x10 square, and also if the rubi angle finder really is that simple for measuring awkward cuts?

If anyone can also advise the best way to mark around pedestals and toilets, i'd be grateful.

Thanks

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timeless john said:
Only correct way is to have the sanitary units taken out!
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agreed. but neither of us are plumbers. And he can't afford one at the moment. I realise it may be straight forward for some tilers to do, but I don't have the confidence to attempt it as there will also be a 12-13mm height difference to what it is now. The bog and basin are down to the concrete and the the current yukky carpet has been cut round.....(hmmmm. maybe use the carpet as a template???) Besides, it will be good cutting practice for me.

3_fall said:
Failing that, either dry lay your floor around it or wait until you've tiles around the outside, then template it with cardboard, Corex or a heavy lining paper.
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Sweet. I have a recycling bin full of large Dominoes boxes I could use :)
 
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3_fall said:
You can also help yourself out a fair bit by having at least one joint on one axis, two if you're very lucky, that pass through the centre.
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good point. You can't see it on my cad drawing, but that how it falls around the basin. But shifting it across to do the same with the loo, would leave a very small slither cut to the wall which I want to avoid.

He's also going for Mapei 113 grout. I know its personal preference but you guys has seen it more often than me. Matching grey silicone around the walls and sanitary or stick to white to match the sanitary, bath panel and skirting?

And any thoughts on the angle finder and the tiger trowel?
 
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Paul C. said:
good point. You can't see it on my cad drawing, but that how it falls around the basin. But shifting it across to do the same with the loo, would leave a very small slither cut to the wall which I want to avoid.

He's also going for Mapei 113 grout. I know its personal preference but you guys has seen it more often than me. Matching grey silicone around the walls and sanitary or stick to white to match the sanitary, bath panel and skirting?

And any thoughts on the angle finder and the tiger trowel?
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I've had an angle finder in the back of my van for years and never used it, steel ruler off the two corners of the last full tile, then two marks on your tile to be cut works fine..
Never tried a tiger trowel so can't comment on them, long as it trowels the adhesive that's the main thing..
Matching silicone round the room and bases of sanitryware looks better imo
 
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Paul C. said:
good point. You can't see it on my cad drawing, but that how it falls around the basin. But shifting it across to do the same with the loo, would leave a very small slither cut to the wall which I want to avoid.

He's also going for Mapei 113 grout. I know its personal preference but you guys has seen it more often than me. Matching grey silicone around the walls and sanitary or stick to white to match the sanitary, bath panel and skirting?

And any thoughts on the angle finder and the tiger trowel?
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Tiger trowel is your last problem. ;)
 
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Paul C. said:
I have a colleague at work who knows that I want to leave my desk job to pursue tiling. So he has allowed me to use him as a guinea pig this weekend. My payment....... Chinese and an unlimited supply of coffee and bacon butties.

I will be doing his bathroom floor. but the shape of it is.....well....... lets just say I've never come across a room this shape before. the angles are just odd and I think the builder of the house must have been on strong amphetamines. Diagram below. Tiles are 500x330 porcelain

I have ordered one of the Rubi Angle finders (smaller version of the Tiletrade T5) to help me out.

The floor is sand:cement screed which I'm going to give a quick once over with diluted APD. but its perfectly flat. Been having a play around with square notch and round notch trowels recently, looking at coverage. But I have also ordered a tiger trowel try.

So can anyone advise on the difference in area coverage between using the tiger trowel and say a 10x10 square, and also if the rubi angle finder really is that simple for measuring awkward cuts?

If anyone can also advise the best way to mark around pedestals and toilets, i'd be grateful.

Thanks

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you're lucky, there's no bidet ;)
 
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timeless john said:
Assuming the door is at the side of the bath end, why not go square with the tiles off the side of the bath and door, cutting the angle of the tile to the other walls. That way when you walk in the room - ' you are a man of distinction, a real big spender' and it may look better.
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Ah, yes. The door is missing. On the diagram it should be on the left wall to the right of the loo. Do you think it could still work laying in that direction? Or would it look odd when you walk in?

If i have time tomorrow, i'll adjust them in that direction and i'll take you advice on what you think looks best. Then if he don'like it, i'll have someone to blame, hehe

Only joking, but am looking for ideas :)

Thanks for everyones input so far. Much appreciated. ***
 
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I love this tiling lark. Best part of it, the sense of satisfaction when you get the complicated stuff right.

Started this bathroom last night and just got cracking for today. Starting with a few cuts.... of course done some tiling before but most of it more straight forward. Not like this, with odd angles and round cuts.

Going back to the thread, favourite tool or the one you wouldn't be without????

Angle grinder. I have seen alot of your cuts in the past and fare enough this may not be up there with them, but for me, this is the cut of my life so far.

#proud

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Paul C. said:
Going back to the thread, favourite tool or the one you wouldn't be without????

Angle grinder. I have seen alot of your cuts in the past and fare enough this may not be up there with them, but for me, this is the cut of my life so far.

#proud
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Well done Paul, all you need now is a carbarundum drum with an M14 thread for your grinder and you can smooth it off too!
 
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antonio said:
now I understand why British tilers, be paid a lot of money ......
1 cut, 1 hour of work ....;)
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I didn't get paid anything. Well, actually, thats kinda not true. He ordered Pizza on Saturday night. Good 'ol Dominos Mighty Meaty, none of this real Italian quattro staggioni muck! ;)

not right me charging for anything at this stage. If anything, I should be paying him for letting me have a go. That cut was slowing going, but it didn't take me an hour. probably about 15 minutes to have it templated and cut. As @3_fall and @Andy Allen pointed out, there is room for improvement with the right gear and maybe a few extra minutes getting it closer

Anyway all got finished last night. Siliconed the lot as a finishing touch, which covered all the jagged edges.

BUT.... My siliconing ability needs improvement. Put it on a bit too thick so it left the tram lines either side of the bead when I did the finger-finish. Had to wait for it to dry so that I could trim it back...... and now after all that, he's told me he wants to change it to white. But this is probably may fault for leaving a bold heavy medium grey bead but he said he made a bad colour choice and would have liked it better white to match the skirting.

I'd probably say I'm 90% happy with it. the 10% markdown is for one tile that dips below the height of the rest, by 1-2mm at one end (hard to tell because of where it is). I ran out of the clips and didn't notice it until it came to grouting. My excuse is it was in a very awkward corner next to the loo and maybe the angle of the trowel wasn't right. And the siliconing. Asked him if he'd be happy for me to go back and fix both issues. He said yes if I really wanted to, but was happy to leave it as it is and he'd live with the grey bead. Him being happy must count for something but I won't sleep until I know I've done everything the best that I can.
 
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