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Wishiwasatoptiler

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Hi, been looking g a job today, smallish kitchen floor, the owner wants glitter grout, they've seen it online. Looked into it and it turns out to be an epoxy grout. Never used it and wondered -is there any special pecaution for the tiles, other than the norm sealer, dose it go off like standard grout, how much harder to work with it than standard grout. The tile is black 600x300 polished porcelain if that has any bearing.
Any help, tips would be great
Thanks
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Its a lot stiffer to use so could be worth getting a hard-rubber grout float.

Wear rubber gloves, cuz if you you get it on your hands it ain't gonna come off for a while.

Get as little on the face of the tile as possible. if you get any unwanted epoxy on the surface, wipe off immediately. If you are left with any film, be careful what you use to clean it off with. On plain black polished porcelain, most grout removers can have an effect on the pigmented wax they use to do the nano-seal at the factory meaning it can discolour and lose its polished surface. (LTP suggest Powerstripper but I bet @Lithofin BOB may have some tips and tricks if that happens. I don't know him but i've heard he is a god!)

The resin can bond to and might affect the sealer you apply. After grouting, safest option is to seal again.

I've only ever done display demo's with it so that all I've got. But I'm sure others can have a bigger input on this.
 
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Italy

Hi, been looking g a job today, smallish kitchen floor, the owner wants glitter grout, they've seen it online. Looked into it and it turns out to be an epoxy grout. Never used it and wondered -is there any special pecaution for the tiles, other than the norm sealer, dose it go off like standard grout, how much harder to work with it than standard grout. The tile is black 600x300 polished porcelain if that has any bearing.
Any help, tips would be great
Thanks
D
@MissTiler is master epoxy :)
 

gamma38

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I used the Mapei glitter grout, easy as to use. Clean up with water as normal. I used the max ratio of glitter to grout. Great stuff and it gives a great result. IMG_0882.jpg IMG_0894.jpg
 
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Qwerty

Work clean, follow ratios to the letter and be prepared to throw everything you use away afterwards! Be warned....the glitter is so light and goes everywhere if you don't work neatly. Use loads of dust sheets in adjoining areas. Wear gloves, use a few buckets of water and keep a test blob nearby to check as it sets up. White emulsifying pads work best IMO. Good results when done right

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Work clean, follow ratios to the letter and be prepared to throw everything you use away afterwards! Be warned....the glitter is so light and goes everywhere if you don't work neatly. Use loads of dust sheets in adjoining areas. Wear gloves, use a few buckets of water and keep a test blob nearby to check as it sets up. White emulsifying pads work best IMO. Good results when done right

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oooooooohhhhhhhhhh
again this wonderful coating ;) like
 
Kerakoll fugalite eco can be used with glitter and meant to be more user friendly than standard epoxy. I've never used it though.
Yes I would go for Kerakoll's Fugalite its really loads easier to use than epoxy... Kerapoxy etc.
All you need is plenty of water & good Clean sponges, you dont need any emulsifying pads, You can get Fuga wash to put into the water as well to help wash off, & after its dry 24-48 hours if ou do have any residue you can get Fuga soap to wash it down with...
 

Wishiwasatoptiler

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Work clean, follow ratios to the letter and be prepared to throw everything you use away afterwards! Be warned....the glitter is so light and goes everywhere if you don't work neatly. Use loads of dust sheets in adjoining areas. Wear gloves, use a few buckets of water and keep a test blob nearby to check as it sets up. White emulsifying pads work best IMO. Good results when done right

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what make of grout did youn use on that job@Plan Tec Tiling, there real neat lines, how did you achieve this. Thanks.
 
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Qwerty

what make of grout did youn use on that job@Plan Tec Tiling, there real neat lines, how did you achieve this. Thanks.

Mapei Mapeiglitter. Following the instructions to the letter, using white emulsifying pads and plenty of clean water. I did use LTP solvex after to clean the residue off of the face of the mosaic as epoxy leaves a very slight film.

50% merit, is tile good :)

You're right my Italian buddy! Maybe 25% though eh!? :D
 
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Qwerty

I used the Mapei glitter grout, easy as to use. Clean up with water as normal. I used the max ratio of glitter to grout. Great stuff and it gives a great result. View attachment 79752 View attachment 79753

Without being too critical, that to me looks a bit messy. I appreciate that the mosaic is full of dips, but it stands out. There is residue all over the face of the mosaic too and the joints don't look uniform. Was the photo taken prior to wiping down?
 
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MTiler

Always wear NITRILE gloves with epoxy grout. If youre in a small room it might be worth wearing a mask, its toxic stuff in enclosed spaces. Wear long sleeves. This applies to any make of epoxy grout.
Put a cup of white vinegar in the wash down water, with a final wash down with plain clean water. I use white emulsifying pads and sponge cloths to clean it.
If you need something stronger to clean any residue off then use acetone, but white vinegar should do it, even neat if need be but then wash off with clean water.
 

Wishiwasatoptiler

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Thanks for that @GaryTheTiler, made me think, many tilers working on sites wether new builds, refurbs etc, I'm gussing would need COSHH data sheets, carry out COSHH risk assessments etc, but in the domestic field, who has this ready in their van, covering all chemicals etc that they have in use or may use, incase of an emergency, say a toddler gets in to your work area and digestes something nasty, just thinking after reading some of that PDF Gary. In the past I've done a lot of work on this but never gave it a thought until now.. anyone have any thoughts on this..
 
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yeah its bloody awful stuff.
I had a couple of bad reactions where I couldnt see out of one of my eyes and had to go onto steroids to sort it out, and would get bad rashes (Urticaria). I now wear a face mask, long sleeved tshirts and two pairs of nitrile gloves at all times. With me its the fumes (that arent always obvious depending on make) that irritate my eyes, luckily i didnt make my throat swell up. It also doesnt help that I often use it in the confines of a steam room.
 

Rich Midge

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yeah its bloody awful stuff.
I had a couple of bad reactions where I couldnt see out of one of my eyes and had to go onto steroids to sort it out, and would get bad rashes (Urticaria). I now wear a face mask, long sleeved tshirts and two pairs of nitrile gloves at all times. With me its the fumes (that arent always obvious depending on make) that irritate my eyes, luckily i didnt make my throat swell up. It also doesnt help that I often use it in the confines of a steam room.
Luckily I've never had a problem with epoxy. A mate of mine used it without any issues then became sensitised to it over night, arms swelled like balloons. I was labouring for a tiler when I was 17 who told me he'd gone blind for a week through using epoxy. Thought he was just trying to wind me up at the time! First epoxy job I did, I had no gloves and cleaned my hands with Ajax scouring powder.
 
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yeah its bloody awful stuff.
I had a couple of bad reactions where I couldnt see out of one of my eyes and had to go onto steroids to sort it out, and would get bad rashes (Urticaria). I now wear a face mask, long sleeved tshirts and two pairs of nitrile gloves at all times. With me its the fumes (that arent always obvious depending on make) that irritate my eyes, luckily i didnt make my throat swell up. It also doesn't help that I often use it in the confines of a steam room.

I almost put a like on this post but given your circumstances, it really doesn't seem appropriate.

I know the stuff is hard to work with and can be irritable if in contact with skin as per the signs on the packaging, but a full-on health hazard? I never realised it was that bad. I know you need gloves and everything, but this is the first i've heard of fumes being a major issue.

From my sales point of view, we advise about gloves and skin contact, but how many suppliers know the full dangers of this stuff and pass it on to customers? Will hold my hands up and say we haven't told customers anything other than the usual epoxy basics in the past. But its prompted me to consider how we put something in place so that we do in the future.

Amazing what a lack of education can throw up. Actually rather shocked. Had to do a test on Kerapoxy a few weeks back. Just a pair of gloves and off I went. In hindsight, maybe I'm lucky to be alive :)


UPDATE: I have put a like on your post, but just so you know its not that I "Like the fact you were injured". I liked it for education purposes. Thanks for sharing :)
 
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Wishiwasatoptiler

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I can not say in what place epoxy struck me.
otherwise you take fun of me.
now healed after two months.
creams, cleansers and no sex. ahaahha
But I have overcome JOTM with that job !!!! ahahaha
crazy italian[/QUOTE


BET your wife was overjoyed with your epoxy infection.............I liked your post because you where injured and not for education purposes...... :)
 

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