Sticking Pvc to tanking

[Windows20]

Hi I have tanked my shower with mapei waterproofing,now I need to stick pvc panels to the ceiling.can anyone recommend something I can use please.

 

[J Sid]

you'll need to contact @Mapei UK Marketing and they will help

 

[Dumbo]

Hi I have tanked my shower with mapei waterproofing,now I need to stick pvc panels to the ceiling.can anyone recommend something I can use please.

Are there no fixing instructions with the panels . I work with a guy who sometimes puts pva panels and he battens the ceiling and uses hidden nail technique . Have you tanked the ceiling ? If not it doesn't gave any relevance to the question if you have and you intend sticking panels then as above .

 

[Windows20]

Yes the ceiling is tanked as well that's why I would prefer not to nail.the panels are very light,just need a glue that sticks well to the tanking.

 

[Waluigi]

Kerdi Fix

 

[J Sid]

Kerdi Fix

that a guess @Waluigi ? Or have you spoken to @Mapei UK Marketing or @Schlüter-Systems Ltd about using that product for this application?

 

[Windows20]

Been on to mapei they said speak to pvc supplier.speak to pvc supplier and they said speak to mapei lol.

 

[J Sid]

I'd imagine if you can get something that bonds to the pvc it would be ok on the mapei.

 

[Waluigi]

It’s an educated guess based on knowing what it will stick to in the industry after reading the data sheet before using it on waterproofing jobs, in particular when it’s been used to bond Kerdi sheet to ‘difficult’ substrates. However I’d not actually use Kerdi Fix, I’d find something else that has similar characteristics yet less expensive due to the volume of Kerdi fix required.

In reality I’d not be bonding PVC to a ceiling full stop, I’d mechanically fix them.

 

[J Sid]

if you are going to advise using a product which you don't know will work it would be a good idea to say so @Waluigi .

we wouldn't want someone to take advice which turned out not to work would we

we don't know what education you have had so we know how educated your guess is

 

[Waluigi]

Been on to mapei they said speak to pvc supplier.speak to pvc supplier and they said speak to mapei lol.

I know you’re not keen on mechanically fixing the PVC but how about using a small amount of neutral curing silicone at each fixing point as it meets the membrane?

Is there a reason you’ve tanked the ceiling? My apologies if you’ve already explained.

 

[Windows20]

It's going to be a steam room as well waluigi,I'm pretty sure I could get away with it being screwed up.but I would rather not break the seal.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Well there you go - a little bit more information - a steam room!
Gone from a simple shower to specialist installation in 1 sentence.
Wall construction, insulation, moisture breaks, temperature ranges....

 

[Windows20]

All I want too do is stick this on the ceiling that's it. Will only be 1200mm pieces.

 

[Qwerty]

Sticks like sh** would be fine

 

[Waluigi]

Sticks like sh** would be fine

that a guess @Plan Tec Tiling ? Or have you spoken to @Mapei UK Marketing or ‘sticks like S**t’ about using that product for this application?

if you are going to advise using a product which you don't know will work it would be a good idea to say so @Plan Tec Tiling.

we wouldn't want someone to take advice which turned out not to work would we

*when I say ‘we’ I’m speaking on behalf of lots of other people too

W out

 

[Boggs]

CT1 or Sticks Like S**t.

 

[Dumbo]

Lesson learnt by me from @Plan Tec Tiling . Test . Get some spare plaster board , tank it , stick some pvc on using different adhesives and see if any fail or work . Then you are good to go . Also please post results .

 

[Qwerty]

@Waluigi , you've been told before about personal attacks of members including staff. A simple 'disagree' would suffice, I know you know where the button is!

And yes, I've even stuck Bushboard to Mapei tanked walls and skeilings with sticks like sh** and it works! So my advice is sound. Is it what @Mapei UK Marketing would recommend, probably not. Does it work, yes. Have I done it myself, yes.

Shame I didnt receive this a few hours ago as I spent most of the day with Nick & Alan from Mapei and we had similar conversations on other applications throughout the day.

 

[Blunt Tool]

It’s time he went back under his bridge!!

 

[Waluigi]

Dear oh Dear. Nobody understands.

I literally posted the identical thing that Julian Sidney posted to me about suggesting Kerdi fix which was demented and unfounded. Totally tongue in cheek and Plan Tec knows that now.

I have used Kerdi fix on several jobs and it was specifically designed for bonding to things exactly as the OP wanted so I don’t expect some jumped up little jobsworth pouncing on me just because it’s me. Two other members suggesting ‘sticks like sh**’ and old Julian wouldn’t have batted an eyelid. It’s quite pathetic Julian Snidey. I am flattered somewhat though

 

[Mikephillips85]

I wouldn’t trust pvc on the ceiling of a steamroom don’t think it will last

 

[Qwerty]

@Waluigi and I have sorted out the confusion now

 

[demi34]

Single part fast flex ball

 

[Dumbo]

@Waluigi , you've been told before about personal attacks of members including staff. A simple 'disagree' would suffice, I know you know where the button is!

And yes, I've even stuck Bushboard to Mapei tanked walls and skeilings with sticks like sh** and it works! So my advice is sound. Is it what @Mapei UK Marketing would recommend, probably not. Does it work, yes. Have I done it myself, yes.

Shame I didnt receive this a few hours ago as I spent most of the day with Nick & Alan from Mapei and we had similar conversations on other applications throughout the day.

Is that you in the sigma face book photo .
I guessing you're the one with the clothes cleaner than when you bought them

 

[J Sid]

Dear oh Dear. Nobody understands.

I literally posted the identical thing that Julian Sidney posted to me about suggesting Kerdi fix which was demented and unfounded. Totally tongue in cheek and Plan Tec knows that now.

I have used Kerdi fix on several jobs and it was specifically designed for bonding to things exactly as the OP wanted so I don’t expect some jumped up little jobsworth pouncing on me just because it’s me. Two other members suggesting ‘sticks like sh**’ and old Julian wouldn’t have batted an eyelid. It’s quite pathetic Julian Snidey. I am flattered somewhat though

@Waluigi the difference is Geoff has a proven record on giving the correct advice, your record has yet to be proven.
I asked you if the advice was a guess and you didn't come back and to explain your reasoning behind that advice, hence I said what I said.
if you are to remain here you should rethink your attitude, the way you interact with members, the advice you give and how it is given.
you really are a total knob alot of the time and the sooner you get removed from this site the better imho.

perhaps we should have a poll ? Should @Waluigi stay or go

 

[Just Rizzle]

the stuff ive used is low modular silicone do not use high mod as can affect plastic pannels

 

[Just Rizzle]

just read its now a steam room are the pannels suitable for this instulation

 

[GoneGuy]

I have fitted quite a few of pvc panels and always used the adhesive that is recommended with it.
I would check with the pvc manufacturer to make sure they are suitable for a steam room.
I have used a heat gun to make the panels flexible for curved walls etc. So I think with the panels being under the stress of a steam room they will deform pretty quick.

 

[Dumbo]

Last steam room I did , tiled the curved ceiling with mosaics . Maybe you should consider over boarding your ceiling with jackoboard , seal only the joints and screw holes and then tile it .