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  1. James aldridge

    James aldridge Active Member

    Location:
    Essex
    Hello all just quick question, gunna be tiling a bathroom soon, in brickbond pattern, wanted to ask if i could start this without a battens, if so how do i do this ? Many thanks
     
  2. macten

    macten Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Nottingham
    Just cut your bottom row in after setting out and away you go
     
  3. James aldridge

    James aldridge Active Member

    Location:
    Essex
    Sorry to be a pain, but would you mind giving a step by step on that,
     
  4. Plan Tec Tiling

    Plan Tec Tiling Administrator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Wimborne, Dorset
    Evening James. I have moved this thread from the Welcome forum into the Tiling Forum.

    Please do post again in the Welcome forum and introduce yourself and abilities a bit more.

    Cutting bottom row in after setting out basically describes finding out what your layout will be, then tile first row of wall tiles from floor, but measuring and cutting so the tops of all of the tiles are 100% level with each other. This then allows you to tile from this level thus eliminating the need for battens.
     
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  5. Rookery

    Rookery Professional Tiler

    I always use the 'batten' provided by the customer - I tile the floor first then cut in the bottom row once I've set out.
     
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  6. Localtiler

    Localtiler Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    I never Batton just cut neatly your first row then tile from that
     
  7. Adey1980

    Adey1980 Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Caerphilly
    Hello James and welcome to the forum,
    There are a few options as described above.
    It all depends on your ability and confidence.
    Is there a reason why you don’t want to use battens
     
  8. James aldridge

    James aldridge Active Member

    Location:
    Essex
    Ok well the only issue is that i have a shower tray installed, so as long as this is level, could i get a straight line right roubd the room from this? As long as the vertical/horizontal cuts work with setting out, and work down from this line to the floor??? Wud this work, down quite underatand how to cut in first row tiles, what height etc??
     
  9. Plan Tec Tiling

    Plan Tec Tiling Administrator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    Wimborne, Dorset
    That height of first row is your choice depending on the planned layout and obstacles in the room. From what you are describing it sounds like you are wanting to lay a full tile first. Am I correct?
     
  10. James aldridge

    James aldridge Active Member

    Location:
    Essex
    I would like a nice full tile to run round the bottom of the shower tray as long as level, and for that level ti run right round all the other walls as long as it works, but i dont want to use a batten , and just wondered how i could get down to the floor then work up, would a good grip adhesive help? There only 4x12 tiles, not heavy,
     
  11. Plan Tec Tiling

    Plan Tec Tiling Administrator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    Wimborne, Dorset
    That's the issue..... you are hoping everything including the floor and tray are bang on level which they most probably won't be. Work out a few different layouts and see what works best as the first tile. More often than not a half to 3/4 tile works best.
    Just use a polymer modified cement adhesive with good initial grab.

    Is this your first tiling venture?
     
  12. James aldridge

    James aldridge Active Member

    Location:
    Essex
    No not my 1st tiling venture , i am confident in my tiling, but is my side job, and has been a little since i did a big tiling job, both shower walls tiled wall to ceiling and the other 2 just half way up.. and rile the floor. well im certainly hoping they fit the shower tray level, ok a good grip adhesive sounds good..
     
  13. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Gloucester
    Your side job...??
     
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  14. James aldridge

    James aldridge Active Member

    Location:
    Essex
    Something i enjoy doing.
     
  15. pdc

    pdc Living the dream..... Professional Tiler

    Maybe he's a Fireman!
     
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