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  1. Paul C.

    Paul C. Professional Tiler

    Had a customer call today, been advised by her builder that if tiling onto a 18mm ply floor, lay chicken wire and bed it into the adhesive...........

    I thought her builder might be a bit batty as I've never heard of anyone doing that before, so I advised rapidmat as a belts'n'braces option if it was deflection free, or hardie if it had any bounce

    Then I come on here and do a search for chicken wire and see that its been advised before in screeds.

    To me it sounds like an oldskool but readily available material that some may still be used by some to this day, and maybe there are other products now that do the same thing but better.

    But whats it used for? Ultimately I'd like to know for what purpose chicken wire was, or is used in tiling and preparation. Pros and cons and how its design has evolved into our modern day alternatives.
     
  2. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    I've no experience using it. Some of our more 'senior' members like Tom astley probably have.
    I believe it's old school and still used in the states, mainly because it works very well.
    I can understand intuitively how it works but I'd be concerned about it corroding in the adhesive in too short a time.
    It would certainly be better at helping adhesive cope with deflection than an uncoupling membrane.
     
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  3. AndY mac

    AndY mac Professional Tiler

    Haven't done it for years we use to call it a jersey mud bath.
     
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  4. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    chicken wire ....
    half an hour to figure out !!!
    Use chicken wire, when I make the sand cement screeds, low thickness, use chicken wire, when I put on heavy material type stone wall, staring at the wall with a drill and dowels.
    i, They are not elderly ;)
     
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  5. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Haven't used it since the bird flu outbreak...:)
     
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  6. whitebeam

    whitebeam Moderator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

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    Chicken wire with screeds, can't see the point nowadays with up to date adhesives and prep materials.
     
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  7. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

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    Going back a bit that is. I don't think you'd find a specification post-1980 with it in lol

    It died when lath and plaster did I think.
     
  8. whitebeam

    whitebeam Moderator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

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    No it didn't, I saw it still used 30 years ago when fibre glass was laid then chicken wire then screeded.
     
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  9. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

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    Alright alright post-1990ish lol
     
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  10. Tom Astley

    Tom Astley Professional Tiler

    Yep, used it a lot but those who think I am 'senior' may not realise that I am only just a pentagenarian.

    Have been tiling since I was 12 though.

    Chicken wire was just an easy way of securing the bed to the substrate. It did help with slight movement too.
     
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  11. Tom Astley

    Tom Astley Professional Tiler

    On walls, it was invaluable if you had to bed out the wall, the chicken wire helped keep the render vertical so that you could then add your top up layer with the tile to get plumb walls.
     
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  12. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Tom also still works in a flat cap, shirt with sleeves rolled up and a waistcoat and brogues.
    Traditional stylee. :)
     
  13. Tom Astley

    Tom Astley Professional Tiler

    Bib & Brace attire.......
     
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  14. Tom Astley

    Tom Astley Professional Tiler

    Just to add, there was expanded metal too........ proper 'orrible to use .
     
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  15. goz

    goz Professional Tiler

    I used it too! I'm only 35! When I started with the old man moo he used to ply out floor and staple expanded metal/ chicken wire to the floor then tile if I recall, last one was in '98 if memory serves. Tiled a dance floor of a nightclub in Maidenhead with it, Michelle Gayle opened the club, I spent most of the time getting coffee for the whole site from the local Wendy's!! Ah Halcyon days .........
     
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  16. whitebeam

    whitebeam Moderator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

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    Who's she ????
     
  17. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Lancashire
    [​IMG]
     
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  18. goz

    goz Professional Tiler

    That's the one......... though I recall her being a lot easier on the eye as a 15 year old lad!!!
     
  19. mma

    mma Professional Tiler

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    Leicester
    Mel B ain't it?
     
  20. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Oh yes. My bad!
     
  21. AD Ceramics

    AD Ceramics Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Manchester
    I used to do pub refurbs all over the country years ago and I always used 8x2 expamet sheets fixed to floor boards with galv plasterboard nails then latex leveller over the top, then tiled with x7 and ardion 90. You'd have to rip the whole floor up to get it up, I went to a boozer I did 20 years ago and a large floor area of reclaimed quarries was still down and not a crack in sight and the place had been refurbed a few times since.
     
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  22. Simon Cooper

    Simon Cooper Active Member

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    Smokey joes by any chance?
     
  23. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    If it wasn't for the cost I think a lot of Tilers would still be using the combination of X7 and ardion 90.

    Last time I used chicken wire was in 1976!
    Gents toilets, Indian restaurant onto a t&g floor that you could see the cellar through. Put down waterproof building paper, staple nailed wire through to wood, 2 and half inch dry mix sand/cement, cement slurry back of quarries, and tapped into place.
    Went back last week and the whole place has gone!
     
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  24. goz

    goz Professional Tiler

    Summer of 96, Zutz nightclub if memory serves?!!!
     
  25. GAZ5518

    GAZ5518 Tiler Extraordinaire Professional Tiler

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    Gotta say those old ways ( where I come from) were tried and tested and were the "proper" way to do things .. then...(those floors are a bitch to remove)....totally agree about X7 and Ardion 90... Stuck like s##t to a blanket.... ....:musicalscore: "Those were the days my friend , we thought they'd ....la la la":musicalscore::musicalscore:;);)
     
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  26. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Mary Hopkins!
     
  27. GAZ5518

    GAZ5518 Tiler Extraordinaire Professional Tiler

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    Correcta- Mundo Timeless..
    Definitely an age giver away!!:eek::rolleyes:o_Olol
     
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  28. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    More like Mary bleeding Poppins :D
     
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  29. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    It's artist signed to Beatles Apple records.
     
  30. GAZ5518

    GAZ5518 Tiler Extraordinaire Professional Tiler

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    I believe I have said 45 on vinyl ...!!!
     
  31. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    She was Irish wasn't she John?
    Long blonde hair if I recall, or was that Mary Peters! :D
     
  32. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    SW London
     
  33. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Welsh / Mary Hopkin
     
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  34. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Haha well, was a while ago, ooow we know a song about that don't we!
    *sings*
    Well in 1814, we took a little trip
    Along with Colonel Packenham down the mighty Mississipp'
    We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
    And we fought the bloomin' British in the town of New Orleans
    Well, we fired our guns and the British kept a comin'
    There wasn't nigh as many as there
    was a while ago
    We fired once more and they began a running
    On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico, yeh:p
     
  35. AD Ceramics

    AD Ceramics Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Manchester
    I've seen some threads go a little of topic while I've been a member of the forums.....but I reckon this one is up there with the best of them.....
    Chicken wire---Mary Hopkins....sure @3_fall@3_fall will find a link!!!!!
    And yes some of you are showing your age I won't say who though.
     
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