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  1. Bathfix Bob

    Bathfix Bob Professional Tiler

    I dont know the answer to this so I'm going to ask.

    So you've got your manual tile cutter and a wetsaw set up so why would you need to cut free hand with a hand held grinder pumping plummes of dust around the place or on the driveway?

    What is the need for it?
     
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  2. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    There's no need for it, it's just more efficient.
    Quick, handy and more versatile than a wet saw.
    Just draw your lines, and cut.
    Won't deny it's dusty, or can be.
    But you can practically put a grinder in your pocket, try doing that with my Rubi DX350 1300. :)
     
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  3. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Must admit I'm very much in the wet cutter group.......never used a grinder, however seeing how popular they seem to be I've been thinking of investing in one.
    Do you get the same level of cut you get with a wet cutter?
    Is it easy keeping a straight line ?
    What would be a decent entry level grinder and blade ?
    As you can't use it indoors (I use my wet cutter indoors with adequate dust sheeting) .......too what advantage is there using a grinder, if your stuffed when it's raining and you have to keep going up and down stairs to cut a tile..?
     
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  4. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    It's like any new technique you try Andy, takes practice for sure.
    It's never gonna be a wet cut, not without some polishing afterwards, but the question will be, does it need a wet cut?
    If it does, then use a wet cutter, I'd say probably 90% don't need to be though.
    As we speak I'm cutting an alcove out the middle of a full bodied 1200 x 600 and mitering it, try that with a wet cutter.
    Entry level for a decent grinder around £50-£60, but if you're thinking of it I'd strongly suggest the Bosch gws 7-115E from protilers for another £20, you'll then have a variable speed grinder too!
    It has an 11000rpm top speed, so ample for cutting.
    Blades? Now there's a minefield!
    £10-£100 take your pick.
    If the property is currently occupied, then cutting inside is difficult, you can reduce the dust dramatically with a cowl fitted for dust extraction with a vacuum.
    If you've used a wet cutter for 30 yrs Andy then the transition will be awkward at times, it's a bit of suck it and see really, after that amount of time.
    But if you warm to it, you'll find yourself using your wet cutter less and less, that's for sure.
     
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  5. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    I think for tiling kitchens walls or floors or any downstairs floor for that matter it would be an advantage as your never far from an outside space and can imagine it's easier than having to set up a wet cutter...
    What are cordless grinder like ?
     
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  6. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Just had a look on tinternet that boch grinder is £50 at tool-net..
     
  7. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    BTW....Sorry to Bob.....don't mean to take over your thread..
     
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  8. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    It won't be the 7-115E it must have the E for variable speed. To my knowledge, ONLY @Pro Tiler Tools@Pro Tiler Tools /Northants tools sell it mate.
    Honestly it's a steal. Hope they got plenty!
    The basic gws 7-115 is still a very good grinder, but it's single speed.
     
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  9. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    A lot swear by them, I have one but don't use it often, don't know why really.
    I use it more often in the room if something needs grinding out or removing, something like that, mainly cos it's quick and easy.
    It'll cost you a lot more money tho haha
     
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  10. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    I use the Bosch one the non variable one, screw fix sell it. I'm a convert from a wet cutter, I use the ats turbo blades for porcelain. I wouldn't go back. I still use a small wet cutter for small metros and such like. Try it out, it's a small out lay, less than £100.

    May as well get the variable speed for hardly any more money, even if you don't see a benifit at this present time.

    Hehe! :D
     
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  11. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    What is wet cutter?
    ahh, remember, must be the two tools I sold 15 years ago ....;)
     
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  12. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Thought you italians were still using a hammer and chisel...:p
     
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  13. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    and I still have not told you how I cut the work in terracotta. :p
    I have not posted any pictures as I cut terracotta.
    I modified a tool ...... and cut.
    without water and dust.
    da vinci, aint nobody beside me.
    modestly modestly. ahah
     
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  14. JulianSidney

    JulianSidney Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

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    me, lots of dust :(
     
  15. JulianSidney

    JulianSidney Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

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    if you.can afford it Andy get both the 7-115E and the 7-115 it'll change you life.
    cutting, drilling, polishing :)
     
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  16. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Andy pilishing the bike and stop ;)
     
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  17. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Polishing , sorry
    Lucidare italian
     
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  18. Matt Bott

    Matt Bott Professional Tiler

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    No way I'd try cut a square kitchen socket with a wet cutter haha
     
  19. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Just have to recover from paying out for the 'Renault piece of crap trafic' and I will look forward to a life changing experience...:)
     
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  20. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    yes, how to have sex the first time-----
     
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  21. Bathfix Bob

    Bathfix Bob Professional Tiler

    I've read with interest and i'm not convinced, I still dont understand why you'd want to do it, you've got a higher risk of injury with grinder kicking back, chips in your eyes, dust in lungs.

    Don't get me wrong Ive got two grinders but unless with were huge format tiles i'd just use a wet cutter
     
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  22. Bathfix Bob

    Bathfix Bob Professional Tiler

    If we're talking square cut outs in tiles for sockets then of course a grinder but surely if say for example you need to cut a 600x300 L cut round the top of a window and it was at least 500mm long you'd use a wet cutter not take it onto the front doorstep and got at it freehand with an angle grinder.
     
  23. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    the important you to be happy. ;)
     
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  24. Bathfix Bob

    Bathfix Bob Professional Tiler

    I'm perfectly happy with my wet cutter.
     
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  25. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    You have asked a question,
    if you already have the answers, why ask questions?
    I do not understand...
     
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  26. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Most of the tilers on here use a grinder, that should tell you something bob.
     
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  27. Matt Bott

    Matt Bott Professional Tiler

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    if you like your wet cutter you should use it, personally i cba to get a wet cutter out find power fill it with water just to cut one line on the doorstep for each side of the window then snap with the manual cutter but if we all did it the same way we would all be robots :)
     
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  28. LEE MAC

    LEE MAC Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    @Bathfix Bob@Bathfix Bob I have too many grinders for me to be bothered to count, there's a reason for that;). I Have also over the years bought 3 Sigma wet saws of each size and a small virtex wet saw for metros etc. I only use the wet saws if I'm absolutely stuck with a bugger of a tile or a crazy cut that couldn't be avoided through setting out. Once you've got the hang of a grinder you'd be leaving your wet saws in the lockup as well. A good blade in a grinder and never force it through the tile and it's the only way to go imo.
     
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  29. MissTiler

    MissTiler TTA Tile Fixer of the year winner 2017 Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member JOTM Winner

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    I use my grinders to cut mosaics, and to cut plug socket holes that end up in the middle of a tile.
     
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  30. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Why can't you cut metros with a grinder.?
    99% ..of my work...lol
     
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  31. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    I just find it easier on little wet saw, some times end up with small cuts under units etc to do
     
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  32. LEE MAC

    LEE MAC Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    I can it's just that over here sometimes you come across problems like where sparks can't keep sockets at the same hieght for some reason ;) awkward stuff like that where you may need a 5mm piece left on a check etc, horrible situations :confused:
     
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  33. MissTiler

    MissTiler TTA Tile Fixer of the year winner 2017 Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member JOTM Winner

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    Theres things called safety glasses/goggles and masks, plus I use a grout float to hold stuff down where possible.

    We all have our own ways of doing things thats suits any given situation.
     
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  34. NZ_Tiler

    NZ_Tiler Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Vienna, Austria
    Half way through a 15month project and the main contractor tells us we all need kick back stop grinders. We had 20+ tilers on site so obviously a huge cost. We fought it and won because

    1. Kick back when cutting 10mm thick tile rarely happens. You're doing something wrong if it does. Safe operating will prevent it.

    2. Kick back grinders (at this time) only started at 125mm. So we'd have to go for larger more powerful grinders in order to get the needed safety feature.

    We do wear dust masks when operating. Glasses should be worn with wet saw aswell.

    A nice dewalt wet cutter would be a nice replacement for a grinder but come at a huge cost for larger companies.
     
  35. rufus the tiler

    rufus the tiler cant get enough of tiling Professional Tiler

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    east yorkshire
    I have a rubi one and it works great.
     
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