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Discuss Keeping half bond/brick bond level. in the Tiling Forum area at TilersForums.co.uk.

  1. Frazer Dulson

    Frazer Dulson FD

    Location:
    Nottingham
    Hi guys,

    After some tips on laying relatively sizeable tiles (300x600 upto the plank like tiles 900x150) in half bond/brick bond formation but keeping it perfectly flat between mixes.

    I do the usual checks that they are able to lay in this formation (hold back to back and check for gap).

    I always use rapid setting with varying flexibility depending on substrate.

    I use Siri level clips for decent size tiles at all joins (each end of the the tile and each other join - 3 on both long sides). Expensive on the clipfront but I’m keen to get perfect finishes.

    My problem is that I get the tiles laid within a particular mix of adhesive nice and level, but then il go and prep the next batch of tiles (cuts etc) and then mix up, but the second batch of tiles don’t quite mrry up to the first mix when I start laying them, but the adhesive has start to set so Siri clips won’t help and if you force it it would ruin the bond of the earlier tiles ? This problem is definitely worse when the floor isn’t particularly level. Or when using plank tiles (900x150)

    I’m assuming maybe use a semi rapid or standard set adhesive to fix this problem? Because then te earlier tiles are still workable. Or also always use SLC when laying brck bond if the floor is crap?

    But that wouldn’t fix where if I have a big room and can’t tile it all in one day and come back the next day and lay another batch - because all the other stuff will be set regardless of rapid, semi rapid or standard.

    I’ve been self employed Tiling 3 years now so am relatively competent ... a lot to learn clearly... is it just I need more practise ?

    Maybe the solution is tile in a certain order - complete full rows at a time rather than say a few at once.

    I did a high gloss floor 300x600 recently and even tho the customer was happy, I could see in the window reflection it wasn’t 100 perfect and it drives me mad.

    Thanks I’m advance.
     
  2. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    Always prepare the substrate properly ie levelling compound . Nothing to be ashamed about using standard are if you don' need to get on the tiles that day . Fit tomorrow's clips today .
     
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  3. Simon Dale

    Simon Dale Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Maidstone
    Cant you use more glue ?
     
  4. Frazer Dulson

    Frazer Dulson FD

    Location:
    Nottingham
    Thanks for that... il start buying a bit more standard set.

    I sometimes don’t self level purely for cost sensitive reasons as much as I want to do it. At 18£ a bag for TM rapid level 30 it soon racks up the cost and other cowboys massively undercut
    “If they don’t want to pay, walk away” I hear you shout
     
  5. Frazer Dulson

    Frazer Dulson FD

    Location:
    Nottingham
    Sorry can you elaborate
     
  6. Andystiletiling

    Andystiletiling Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Burnley
    What you save by not self leveling you'll use in adhesive and time wasted messing about, get the floor flat and make your life easier. I hardly ever use rapidset and shop about for your materials..what your paying trade for a bag of leveler is a ridiculous price, Ultra do a great rapid slc and its a lot less than that.
     
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  7. Simon Dale

    Simon Dale Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Maidstone
    If you back butter the tile you'll have plenty of bed to go level with next tile. Clips ! Thats another thing. gonna get told off now. Learn to tile without clips if you can. When you get up to 1200x600 then use clips if you need to. Im 59 used clips for the first time a fortnight ago!!
     
  8. kevsalt

    kevsalt Professional Tiler

    Location:
    whiston staffs
    13mm or 15mm notch on the floor 6mm or 8mm back butter ..make sure your addy is not too sloppy usually does the trick ..yes youll use some serious amount off addy but no clips
     
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  9. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    Absolutely agree adhesive and levelling same price so unless your spot fixing you are not saving any money and why should you struggle when it could be easy
     
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