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Discuss Improvement suggestions regarding the JOTM uploading process.... And stuff in the Tilers Forum Updates and Feedback area at TilersForums.co.uk.

  1. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    I tried to enter one last night but, couldn't upload any photos to my post, is there something I'm not doing right?
     
  2. JulianSidney

    JulianSidney Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    Location:
    ramsey, essex
    I had same problem..... Do your write up and hit create contest entry to upload photos
     
  3. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    i mentioned this too a while back and dan belittled me! Not that I'm bitter about it ;)
     
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  4. JulianSidney

    JulianSidney Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    Location:
    ramsey, essex
    why it can't say 'upload photos ' is beyond me
     
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  5. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    Undo rating @Dan@Dan?
     
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  6. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    If I press the camera icon, all I can upload is what's in my forum media album, I can't find a way of accessing what's on my phone camera.
     
  7. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    SW London

    Go in to Aprils jotm Bri and select post new contest entry.


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    Then select upload contest entry, that'll access your camera roll. Upload 15 images or less and then select create contest entry.

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    That should create your entry Bri.
     
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  8. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Thanks Marc. Im going to try and be as constructive as I can with this post. Its stuff like this that has killed the forum for me in recent months, it is so unnecessarily complicated and ridiculously cluttered, it's so off putting. I really like the forum content and the members but, (in my opinion) something needs to be done with the layout and set up, none of the pages scroll properly and why are there so many "like" options for a post? I can't be the only one who is of this opinion. Yes the software is great and has all these options but, lets be honest, the vast majority of it is a bit pointless. It's hard to write this without sounding like I'm having a moan but, good grief, something that should be so simple and at one time was user friendly, has quite frankly, turned into a massive mission, to the point where I just can't even be bothered trying to post.
     
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  9. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    SW London
    I do think there are parts that could be streamlined
    Bri, for sure, but I suppose we have to know what is wrong before we know what is right.

    But I'm sure @Dan@Dan will welcome your feedback Bri.
     
  10. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Ok, not really the thread for it but I'll post it here anyway. Facebook has its flaws, mainly the trolls and lack of moderation, however, it's real attraction is it's pure simplicity, it's been built so that divvy Donna from Doncaster can sell her 14 year old fag burned sofa with a couple of clicks on her stolen Samsung s6, that's what people want, not 18 different processes to ask why their grout is patchy and 14 different options to thanks any respondents for their time. Keep it all simple, we are here to talk about sticking squares and rectangles to things, nothing more, nothing less. All this is of course my opinion, but, from a member who has 11000+ posts, I'd encourage you to have a look at the set up.
     
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  11. CJ

    CJ Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Somerset
    ^^ Agree with Bri^^

    Too cluttered, far too much of a faff to do much other than just skip about.

    Click and go.......that's all it needs.

    Stay busy you bums.
     
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  12. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    Aberdeen
    I need to know....Is Donna's sofa sold or still available?
     
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  13. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    I think it's still for sale, she timed her post terribly with the DFS half price Easter sale.
     
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  14. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    It's made by a foreign developer. The translation isn't brilliant. I can reword that though.
     
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  15. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    We had a practice comp last month to play around with.
     
  16. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    Please keep your moans to their own threads lol is this about the 14 thanks buttons or the uploading to the contest.

    :D :D :D

    It's work in progress hang in there.

    Been busy on the plumbing forum to be fair. :)
     
  17. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    Okay I've changed the name of the button to "Upload JOTM Photos".

    Other than 'make it like Facebook' I can't see what else I need to change from the posts above. Any actual suggestions?
     
  18. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Ok. It's impossible to say anything without sounding critical, that's not what I'm trying to acheive. To try and get across my point I'll say this, if this forum and it's layout was what greeted you if you went to www.brianthetiler.com, what would you think? Me personally, I'd press the x in the top corner and that's coming from someone has has spent far too many hours of my life on this forum and the internet as a whole. I get forums and how they work but, this, is so needlessly over engineered, imagine a newcomer trying to work out what to do. At the end of the day Dan, you do what you feel is right you've always had my support but, this has gone a long long way in the wrong direction. Does anyone have any watched tags? Yes I get that they help with searches but, no one wants to tag their threads, they just end up writing the thread title out in tags. I won't go on, I've said my part and hope I've got my point across without sounding like a ****.
     
  19. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    Sooooo I change what?
     
  20. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    You know the tags get automatically added?
     
  21. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    Trying to find some suggestions out of this.

    I've removed the watched tags feature from some usergroups.
     
  22. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    The navigation would be a great start, can you remember how the forum used to look on tapatalk? That was brilliant while out at work, if I had a problem, I took a picture, wrote a few words and posted it, people could see it easily and replied. Now that's essentially how Facebook works except stuff just gets lost after a day or 2, the fact is no one cares about tags or even forum categories, they want to see what's been posted recently and when they reply it needs to be simple quick and I they want to add a picture or 2 it's only a couple of clicks away. This is the navigation page on another forum, it's so basic it's verging on prehistoric but it works, it's simple and it's what people want. Try to view it through the eyes of a tradesman not a computer expert
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  23. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    Not sure our menu is a million miles from that one in your photo.

    I'll take a look at it in the week.

    Problem is we have a dozen areas of the forum now, not just the forum.

    You can hit new posts and get the latest content. Or hit new thread then pick a category to post in. Also just tested uploading a contest and it's a couple of clicks from any page of the forum.

    I think it's just a case of being used to it maybe.

    Tapatalk was simple but not really the way to go these days a lot of forums are pulling from it. They're collecting too much data and sending emails out from them direct to forum users when people haven't agreed to that when signing up to the forum etc. They're under different laws with being Chinese.

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  24. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    That's a perfect example mate, how does anyone know that's a menu? It's just 3 lines next to the forums button, if you showed that picture to 100 people I guarantee less than 10 of them would know that was a navigation menu.
     
  25. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    And I'm not saying go back to tapatalk just that I thought the simplicity of the layout was easy to navigate, especially on a mobile screen, and while on the go at work.
     
  26. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    It's a standard menu button across all modern websites. Checkout TTA website for example. The fact it doesn't say the word menu in it doesn't mean people don't click it. It's intuitive to click it.

    Tracking the patterns of new visitors, I see it gets clicked far more than just 10%.

    The other thing is, most people don't want or need to click it. They've arrived on a page, read it, and click next on that page (thread) if it has more pages. Those are the buttons we need to show them more so.

    If they're unregistered they get presented with register or login buttons.

    If they're looking for something I've usually worked out what it is by how they've arrived here and it'll be presented to them.

    That's how you manage a huge website. Not just have a menu button replaced with the word menu.

    Another thing is; visit the website on a PC and it's an actual menu. 70-something percent visit it on a PC. So why change the website for the rest and not consider those...?
     
  27. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    It's only managing a forum though and not a mammoth of a website. It becomes featureless then and people cant get to other areas I'm trying to promote.
     
  28. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    I think because you have a computer brain, the more features the better whereas from a forum users point of view, less is more, it's surely more about ease of communication rather than how fancy and jazzy it looks.
     
  29. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    It's about how much we can do for tilers. There will always be room for improvement and as a one-man-band behind the scenes I think i do pretty well.

    But I'll take a look at the menu this week.

    :D
     
  30. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Ok so if all of that's true, why are so many people being drawn over to Facebook, I'll answer that for you, it's because it's way easier to post, easy to view and there aren't that many options. I don't particularly like Facebook I much prefer the specialist set up of a forum but, even as a seasoned forum user I find this really hard going. I see how it would be easier on a pc so maybe a simpler version for a mobile because as it stands it's not great compared to several other options available.
     
  31. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    I'm not trying to dig you out mate, I've got way more respect for you than that, I just want to be able to use this forum again like I used to, simple quick and easy, no messing. That's all I'm trying to get at.
     
  32. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    Thanks for answering your question for me lol

    I'm not interested in making the forum anything like facebook. If people want Facebook they have it.

    We have the forum here though and it's the forum.
     
  33. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    I'm struggling to see how you can't quickly post a thread and add photos like you do on Facebook I've just tested it, it's the same amount of clicks lol
     
  34. Bri

    Bri Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Ok, I've said my piece, I'll leave it at that.
     
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  35. Dan

    Dan TilersForums.co.uk Est.2006 Staff Member Top Contributor NOT a Tiler

    Location:
    Staffordshire, UK
    I'm listening mate. I'll take a look in the week. :)

    Did you fill in the survey a couple of weeks ago? Got a couple of hundred responses and nearly all said it's mint. New and old members.

    Nobody else mentioned the 14 options to ask if grout is patchy mind lol
     
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