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Discuss Homelux wall/floor matting in the Tanking and Wetrooms Forum area at TilersForums.co.uk.

  1. Mossop

    Mossop Active Member

    Location:
    Lisburn
    Would anyone happen to know precisely what the difference is between the Homelux wall and the Homelux floor matting?

    I have more wall matting than required and no floor matting.

    I'm to have a marine plywood floor put down in a bathroom (not a wet room), though I know there can be differences in the quality of marine ply.

    Would there be negative in putting some Homelux Wall matting put over the ply floor before tiling?

    Thanks.

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  2. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    Your best bet it to ditch the ply and use something more suitable, assuming your using the ply over floorboards or chipboard.
     
  3. Mossop

    Mossop Active Member

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    Lisburn
    No, the ply isn't going over floorboards, it's going directly onto the floor joists.
     
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  4. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Personally I wouldn’t use that mat on the floor. Your best option is to overboard the floor with a cement board, or an insulation board, then tile.
     
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  5. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Forget about the Homelux stuff and you can do away with the marine ply also Hardie backer boards do a structural 22mm board you can fix directly onto joists then just prime and tile with flexible tile adhesive! Our resident @3_fall@3_fall hopefully can confirm this.
     
  6. Mossop

    Mossop Active Member

    Location:
    Lisburn
    Thanks. Presumably though the Homelux floor mat would be okay to use - if I had some?
     
  7. Mossop

    Mossop Active Member

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    Lisburn
    Could the 18mm marine ply be primed and then tiled?
     
  8. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Cooooeeeee! :)

    Yes Ian. I can confirm that :D

    Hardie Floor structural board, really good product.
    Tongue and groove cement board, 19 & 22mm thicknesses, finished job.
    If there’s no danger of moisture ingress, then totally recommend it.

    If your going to use a matting on a bathroom floor, then use Isomats waterproof decoupling membrane.
    Two products in one and very versatile.
    This can also be used on shower walls for tanking purposes.


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  9. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    As far as I am aware ( I have never used this) the Homelux matting for walls is for waterproofing and the Homelux matting for floor is a waterproof decoupling matting specifically for floors so you are asking if you should put the wall stuff onto the floor the answer is no.
     
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  10. Mossop

    Mossop Active Member

    Location:
    Lisburn
    That would be this product:
    WATERPROOFING & UNCOUPLING MEMBRANE - Complementary Products, Complementary Waterproofing Products, Complementary Waterproofing Products – Reinforcements, Tile Adhesives & Grouts, Waterproofing Materials - ISOMAT - https://www.isomat.eu/product/waterproofing-uncoupling-membrane-en/

    Thanks for that, I haven't heard of this brand previously.
     
  11. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    If your bathroom floor is not big then 18mm marine ply screwed tight no deflection will be fine to prime, flexi adhesive fix and flexi grout IMO
     
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  12. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Not asking for your opinion, you asked for mine! :p
     
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  13. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Didn’t quote you was answering the OP :p
     
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  14. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    That’s good information about the Hardie boards tho very handy to know and trust your opinion so will be using in future ;)
     
  15. Mossop

    Mossop Active Member

    Location:
    Lisburn
    It's the smallest bathroom you're ever likely to see.

    May I ask what you mean by deflection in this context?
     
  16. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Yes that’s absolutely correct.
    It’s a relatively new company to the Uk, but big in Europe.
    It’s a company from Greece and their distribution centre is in guilford.
    If you’re considering their matting then it’s well worth using their adhesive too.
    Both excellent products.
    The AK20 or AK22 are both excellent standard set adhesives with high yield and 25kg bags.
     
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  17. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Bounce in the floor, up and down movement as opposed to lateral, which is cahused by expansion and contraction.
     
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  18. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Fill a glass of water to just about brimming then have a dance around your floor ( you can do it in your pants if you want ;)) and if no water on floor then no deflection
     
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  19. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Puff puff
     
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  20. Mossop

    Mossop Active Member

    Location:
    Lisburn
    I can't see contact details for their Guilford centre, so I guess I'd have to contact their Greek office to learn of UK stockists; contact details for the Greek office are on the website which I linked-to above.
     
  21. Mossop

    Mossop Active Member

    Location:
    Lisburn
    So movement, essentially.

    Any opinions on which product to prime ply flooring with?
     
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  22. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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  23. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Use Isomats acrylic primer, very reasonably priced. When carrying out any project, it’s always a good idea to try and stick with the same manufacturer all the way through.
    It avoids the scenario of companies blaming each other or saying that their product is not compatible.
    If there was ever to be an issue somewhere in the future.
     
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  24. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Any good SBR primer BAL, Weber, Mapei and isomat to name but a few
     
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  25. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Puff puff puff
     
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  26. callatiler

    callatiler Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Op is loaded as he has already mentioned Topps!
     
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  27. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    SW London
    If you’re using a phone, turn it landscape and their details are printed at the bottom of their post. If you’re on a pc or tablet, you’ll see them anyway.
     
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  28. Mossop

    Mossop Active Member

    Location:
    Lisburn
    Thanks very much guys. If I think of anything else, I'll post back. Cheers.
     
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  29. 3_fall

    3_fall Administrator. Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    You’re welcome,

    U’all come back now, ya hear! ;)
     
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  30. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    What’s all this Puff,Puff,Puffing all about?
    This thread will be read in 10 years time and it’ll end up in court!
     
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