Setting Out Herringbone walls ! The definitive answer?

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macten

Professional Tiler
I've committed to my first 450 herringbone job - will be 3 walls of a shower enclosure with little 2x6 inch tiles.
Lots of advice out there tells you to find the midpoint of the wall and keep the tile points to this plumb line:
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From all the google images of jobs where this has been done I noticed that it gives unequal cuts at the sides which I don't want.
After searching for ages I found this gem of a post:

Dont start with tile points on centre line or you'll get different size cuts either side

Theres 2 ways set out herringbone on a 45
First is to draw a line down the centre of a tile at 45 degree's and line that up on your centre line. Cuts will be equal sizes but opposite way around.

Second way to get the cuts the same way so they are like wings ( best way imo) is a bit more complicated to explain easy to show. Set two tiles herringboned and measure the distance between the points of each tiles but parallel. Then quater it and measure that distance off your centre line and thats you new line to start from off the points. If that makes sense

For example I use alot of 3x9 inch parquet tiles so id be starting 26mm off my centre line to get equal cuts on each side going the same way
So I'm just after some clarification that I've got this right in my head:

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If @Spacey360 or any other guru can confirm that's right then please post!!




 

LEE MAC

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Professional Tiler
JOTM Winner
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I've committed to my first 450 herringbone job - will be 3 walls of a shower enclosure with little 2x6 inch tiles.
Lots of advice out there tells you to find the midpoint of the wall and keep the tile points to this plumb line:
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From all the google images of jobs where this has been done I noticed that it gives unequal cuts at the sides which I don't want.
After searching for ages I found this gem of a post:



So I'm just after some clarification that I've got this right in my head:

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If @Spacey360 or any other guru can confirm that's right then please post!!



To get it centre you line up in the middle of the two red circles, somewhere like the yellow line that I’ve tried to draw on my phone.
 

jcrtiling

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Professional Tiler
TTA Member
Centre line isn't where you think it will be . @LEE MAC has it right imho. But unless you frame each wall with a straight tile you will only he able to centre one wall because if you don't frame you will need to continue to the bond around the corner of the room . Good luck .
 
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macten

macten

Professional Tiler
Tray will be spot on level as I will fit it and I'm aiming to wrap it round the 2 side walls if the boarding is spot on. Unfortunately I'm not doing that bit as I'm stacked out. Won't be doing it till end of September. If the boarding is rubbish then I will have to frame the walls but I love the look of it wrapping round.
 
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macten

macten

Professional Tiler
Okay so using spacey's 3x6 inch parquet example giving 26mm I cut a couple of bits of paper to size to see what points he was measuring to get 104mm.

So this is what I should be measuring:

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Which gives what Lee Mac says:

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And this gives equal cuts with both sidesgoing the same way.
 
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