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Discuss Builders Tiling job - is this acceptable? in the Tiling Forum area at TilersForums.co.uk.

  1. gee

    gee New to TilersForums.co.uk

    Location:
    uk
    Hi, I'm having my bathroom renovated and would really appreciate some advice as I've heard/read conflicting information and would like to know where I stand. The job is due to finish around the of this week.

    The tiles are 600x300mm and 9mm thick porcelain.

    Please see the attached image, which is a screenshot of multiple images. I can upload the individual files if you need to see any larger.

    Clockwise from top left image:

    2755 - adhesive

    2543 - Ply back wall and platform for shower. When queried he said it was marine ply so would be ok.

    2543 - side wall plastered, cut out for shower niche

    2570 - constructed plywood niche sitting on shower tray.

    2604 - Tiles being put on top of plywood on wall and on niche

    2760 - dot and dab tiling. He agreed it didn't conform to British standards but it was the only way to make it look straight after he plastered the walls.

    2762 - 3 piles of 16mm thick adhesive per tile along at least one wall

    2768 - adhesive is aprox 60-70mm wide

    2659 - tiles being laid on floor

    2780 - tiles on plywood

    2788 - tiles were laid on top of this wall

    Thanks.

    bathroom fitting.png
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 16, 2019
  2. pdc

    pdc Only a Handyman... Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    About as wrong as it gets. Stop now. All down and get someone who knows what they are doing.
     
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  3. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Gloucester
    Dot and dab is bad enough.
    But dot and dab onto ply, don't really get much worse than that...!
     
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  4. Boggs

    Boggs Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Uk
    You need a step ladder for the shower tray.
    Why is it so high?
     
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  5. pdc

    pdc Only a Handyman... Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    Just noticed that!
     
  6. Localtiler

    Localtiler Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    Really looks like a bad job from the very bones unfortunately.
     
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  7. Mark W Smith

    Mark W Smith Active Member

    Location:
    Nuneaton
    Tiling onto ply on walls doesn’t follow british standards......all shower enclosure walls should firstly be made watertight using a water resistant backer board, I use wedi board, if that’s not possible then it should be tanked.......wedi board or Hardi backer board glued & screwed to the floor before fixing tiles......as pdc says remove all and get it done by a professional......good luck
     
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  8. widler

    widler Professional Tiler

    Location:
    England
    Ply is bad enough , but it looks like he has just got a load of bits left over from making a rabbit hutch and used them :(, everything about that job is pants .
    Stop him before he finishes and get it ripped out,
     
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  9. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Preston, Lancs
    Almost guaranteed to fail. Quickly!
     
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  10. John Benton

    John Benton Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Leeds
    The shower tray may have been built up to allow the soil to run around the room, I've seen it done before.

    Stop him now, so at least you won't have to go out and buy new tiles.

    Everything about this job has got disaster written all over it. You've got the opportunity to stop that happening - Take it!!!
     
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  11. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Preston, Lancs
    Those blobs onto emulsion...
    Give one of the tiles a bit of a tug and, well....
    You'll see!
     
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  12. Huddersfield Tiling

    Huddersfield Tiling Huddersfield Tiling

    Location:
    Huddersfield
    In a word, NO.

    Tiling onto plywood is a bad idea, even if the builder insists it's marine ply (it won't be, more likely WBP). In wet areas, it's a definite no-no. The walls and floors should have boarded onto stable joinery work using cement boards of a thickness of 12 mm on the walls and 6mm on the floor or an insulation type board which has a cement fibre reinforced thin face.
    Ask him to leave before disaster happens.
     
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  13. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Gloucester
    I thought it was a sunken bath...lol
     
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  14. gee

    gee New to TilersForums.co.uk

    Location:
    uk
    Good morning.

    Thank you all for your advice.

    I’ll give you an update with the timelines:

    On monday 15/4/19 I discovered the job was potentially problematic. I arranged for a tiler to come out and check out the work on the tuesday. I then spoke with the company I have doing renovations to my entire property, which includes the bathroom, telling him of the problem and he agreed it didn’t conform to uk standards. I said to concentrate on the other work and I’d get someone in tomorrow to inspect the work and advise on its safety.

    That night I returned to the property and discovered he’d ignored my instructions to stop and had all but completed the tiling and covered up the edges where the dot and dab tiling was evident.

    On tuesday 16/4/19 I advised the pro tiler I'd asked for input and he said it was a nasty situation and pulled out of visiting, not wanting to get involved. I don’t blame him, I’d love to do the same but its my house.

    My property is far from completion and completely uninhabitable. Plus he’s been paid in excess of the current status of renovations.

    Not quite sure what to do.
     
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  15. Andy Rhodes

    Andy Rhodes Active Member

    Location:
    Manchester
    Yes don't give him any more cash no matter what other work he completes then get him to sort out the tiling he can put backer board over the plywood, the backer boards come in various thickness so he could fit 10 mm over top that would be a better outcome than straight over the plywood
     
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