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  1. RayTheTiler

    RayTheTiler Professional Tiler

    Location:
    home
    hi all has any one used this decoupling mat by BAL yet. Was talking to there REP today and am thinking about using it on a job which is getting an anhydrite screed.
    there seam to be alot of advantages to using this product but need to know your views
     
  2. Andystiletiling

    Andystiletiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Burnley
    Not used it but a bit sceptical about it to be honest Ray, would imagine screed needs to be like an ice rink or your just relying on mass and gravity..whereas I'd rather rely on an spf :)
     
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  3. callatiler

    callatiler Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Aberdeen
    There are quite a few tilers around had successful installs with full backing from BAL guarantee. If chance or circumstance came up I would probably use it with guidance from BAL.
     
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  4. Tom Astley

    Tom Astley Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Manchester
    I would use it - no different to any other loose lay decoupler.

    WhenI first started, almost all tiled floors laid in sand and cement, were laid with a visqueen sheet, sat on directly and not stuck to the concrete base. (even screeded floors were laid onto visqueen)

    What is the difference apart from technology with the flexbone?
     
  5. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    It's not a new product. It's about 15 years old. Made by Gutjahr and Ardex in Europe and the USA . Trimline sell it as a Gutjahr product
     
  6. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    About 127 kg a Sqm to hold to screed to the sheet
     
  7. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    Blasphemer. 2e is the one and only true loose lay , all the others are false loose lays . Now kneel before your true mat
     
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  8. Adey1980

    Adey1980 Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    Location:
    Caerphilly
    I haven’t used it, but will be looking at it closely on the next trade event demo
     
  9. Tile Fix Direct

    Tile Fix Direct Julian at TileFix Direct TF Official Sponsor

    Location:
    Aldershot
    We have sold quite a lot and getting a lot of interest. Feed back from those that have fixed it is good. Screed needs to be flat with no major deviations. If fixing on gypsum/anhydrite it needs to be under 1.5% moisture content (Ditra and other de-coupling systems require less than 1%). BAL technical rep will come and visit site FOC to do a carbide moisture test. Ring BAL to arrange. Of course, we also sell the product!
    Don't forget, blue side up and tape any cut length joints on floor.
    BAL Flexbone 2Easy Matting - https://www.tilefixdirect.com/product/BAFBONE-2EASY
     
  10. Localtiler

    Localtiler Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    The down side in my opinion is it's BAL which means it's going to be more expensive and if you want there gaurantee which I think you would want at least for the time being atleast then you need to use there adhesive also and probably there grout. What's the benefit to you as the fitter at the end of the job? Are you better off or worse off ?
     
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  11. Tile Fix Direct

    Tile Fix Direct Julian at TileFix Direct TF Official Sponsor

    Location:
    Aldershot
    Indicative prices ex VAT/m2 are £6.50 for Ditra, £10.99 Flexbone 2 Easy. You would save on the adhesive to stick it down and the labour cost of spreading (say £1.20 + £2.50 = £3.70). The other main benefit is the easy of spreading adhesive onto the surface, it is twice as fast, so that would be about £1.25m2 in labour. Overall this will come in with a slight overall cost saving, and a significant time saving. Post some job pictures on the installation of the month and you could win a roll to try! The costs of the new BAL One adhesives are also much more cost effective.
    Equally Ditra is a great product!
     
  12. jcrtiling

    jcrtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member Top Contributor

    Location:
    Salisbury
    Schluter claim they can go on anhydrate at 2% by volume
     
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  13. widler

    widler Professional Tiler

    Location:
    England
    It’s ok, I doubt I will be using it again, you can tell which one is which when you tap on a bedded Matt and the flex , the flex sounds slightly hollow .
    Price wise, possibly a bit cheaper, but I wouldn’t say it makes much difference.
    Bloke I used it for bought it off someone called tile fix or something, was about £200 for a 10m2 roll
     
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  14. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Preston, Lancs
    What's it called in the States again?
    Want to compare prices....
     
  15. hmtiling

    hmtiling Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    Ardex flexbone 720
     
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