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  1. JMC tiling

    JMC tiling Professional Tiler

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    hemel hempstead
    Hi guys,

    Looking at getting into doing some geometric/Victorian floor tiling but would like to go on a course and see some done first hand before I tackled one myself. Have seen that Able skills offer a 5 day course for this skill set and wondered if any of you had any feedback or experience of this? Cost is about £700 which seemed reasonable if the course is good or is there a better way for me to go about learning the art?

    Cheers
     
  2. MissTiler

    MissTiler TTA Tile Fixer of the year winner 2017 Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member JOTM Winner

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    Norf London
    I did a 5 day victorian geometric course with another company which I enjoyed. Its not easy, and with any short course youll just learn the basics, but its a start.
    Its very specialised and easy to get wrong. If you can work with or shadow someone who does a lot of them that would be great.
    Its something you have to love doing.
    I do the odd one as i dont specialise in it, mosaics are my thing.

    Sharon
     
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  3. Protiler 68

    Protiler 68 Professional Tiler

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    South east/kent
    Did they show you floor preperation sharon
     
  4. Aston

    Aston Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

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    the preparation is the same for any tile but the emphasis on geometric tiling is to get the floor as 'flat' as humanly possible.
     
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  5. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Yorkshire
    It's obvious that the floor needs to be pretty much perfect. I don't see why it's any more specialist than any other fidly tiling job, I would do one no problem. Guess it depends on how good you are at your job
     
  6. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    Just got to spend the time setting it out
     
  7. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Gloucester
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  8. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    italy
    :)

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  9. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Your right - this was one of my first Photo taken on a Polaroid in early '80's and scanned in 2010. Job about 45 sq yards and a design taken from a local church.
    Tiles 96x96mm full bodied porcelain and all hand cut.
     
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  10. Aston

    Aston Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

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    Over the past 10 years this forum has attracted some fantastic tilers / trades people and It's also attracted some cranks too BUT! of all the people who have posted, I can honestly say that there's only 2 who could be described as "absolute masters at their trade"

    One is Phil Hobson
    And the other is Timeless John

    So when a person makes a claim about an area of tiling that they have not even done yet and a person shows you a piece of work like the above, I hope you all know which one to trust.
     
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  11. MissTiler

    MissTiler TTA Tile Fixer of the year winner 2017 Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member JOTM Winner

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    They did go into that, but obviously it was mainly about setting out, measuring etc.
     
  12. peteablard

    peteablard Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    Seen a few pictures on here of geometric floors done by so called experienced tilers and they've made a right balls up!
     
  13. MissTiler

    MissTiler TTA Tile Fixer of the year winner 2017 Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member JOTM Winner

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    We are not worthy
     
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  14. peteablard

    peteablard Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    Mind you I've seen some really simple jobs cocked up too!!
     
  15. Aston

    Aston Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

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    In 10 years, I am going to add you to that list Sharon ;0)

    Then there"ll be 3!
     
  16. MissTiler

    MissTiler TTA Tile Fixer of the year winner 2017 Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler TTA Member JOTM Winner

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    If I last that long lol.
     
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  17. peteablard

    peteablard Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler

    I'd also want to know who was going to be training you and see a portfolio of their work. I've done a few small geometric jobs but could talk as if I'd done way more than I had. Doing a few jobs doesn't qualify you to train others. Make sure they really do have the correct experience to be teaching you.
     
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  18. impish

    impish Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Lancashire
    I've even seen some "masters" of geo work make mistakes or take strange shortcuts.
    It's not easy at all and is a whole lot more specialist than any other fiddly tiling job due to the set-out.

    Try one - you'll soon see!

    ...for the record - Andrew O'Sullivan - AOS Tiling is extremely busy with geo work in and around London.
    His are good enough to be photographed and featured in OS catalogues and he'll be the first guy to tell you how hard it is and how many mistakes he still makes!
     
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  19. Localtiler

    Localtiler Professional Tiler Top Contributor

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    Yorkshire
    I'm going to do my own hall way with Victorians before the year is out so Ile post up at full set of photos when I do. I'm
    Not saying it's easy but I'm confident in my own ability. Not sure about anyone else's
     
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  20. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    bravo, if you want to learn, your home, as test is good ;)
     
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  21. goz

    goz Professional Tiler

    image.jpeg Tiled my pathway, been tiling near on 20 years, I still managed to balls it up, as it was my own and a bank hols just wanted it done. Respect to the guys who do this day in day out. For me, it's an area I do not have patience for, I would probably decline a customers request to do one to be honest. That doesn't make me a bad tiler just an honest one
     
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  22. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    italy
    I am not an expert ....
    but I would have centered field and removed the band.
    I'm wrong?
    in any case, good ;)

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  23. goz

    goz Professional Tiler

    Centred field , the wall post on left comes out further than the right. Wife wanted it this way... Border round outside .. I did say about the red diag bleeding into the border on left, she was adamant .
     
  24. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    then it is okay.
    wife is always right. :)
     
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  25. goz

    goz Professional Tiler

    Haha you are right ! Also no border would have been my preference
     
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  26. whitebeam

    whitebeam Moderator Staff Member Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner

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    I prefer the border personally
     
  27. Stef

    Stef Professional Tiler

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    Cumnock, Ayrshire
    I've knocked geometric work back as I didn't want to do it.
    I did tell the customer that if they really wanted it done then I would put them in touch with someone that knew the job inside out.
    I don't think TJ or Phil would have came up to Scotland..
     
  28. AndY mac

    AndY mac Professional Tiler

    Nice job. Maybe a black border would have brought in your base course of your house also.
     
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  29. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    North East England
    Go anywhere for Geometric!;)
     
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  30. Andy Allen

    Andy Allen Metro specialist & forum entertainer! Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    Gloucester
    I didn't know you were an architect..;)
     
  31. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    italy
    many things, you do not know me :)
     
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  32. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    North East England
    One of those jobs being a bouncer at Glastonbury ?
     
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  33. antonio

    antonio Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

    Location:
    italy
    yes, place is free?
    (speak Arabic john) :(
     
  34. goz

    goz Professional Tiler

    Just out of interest , what could I have done to not have bottom left debacle? Just not have a border? Really bugging me!!
     
  35. timeless john

    timeless john Trusted Advisor Trusted Advisor Professional Tiler JOTM Winner Top Contributor

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    North East England
    1. Brought the right hand in to match.
    2. Use a smaller 96mm tile inside and add to the border.
    3. Run the left side straight into the brick pillar.
    4. Don't change the chequerboard design on the top step.
    5. Keep the same size border at the gate front.
    6. Tell your wife who is the boss!

    Just a few options
     
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