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sean3062

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Is a 13 day course enough to give you a base to go self employed as a tiler it doesnt seem very long
 
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sean3062

in a word, no. it may be enough to let you do simple jobs to a reasonable standard but that's about it imo
Thats what i thought but when you read the feedback from the courses it doesnt paint that picture
 
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LM

Thats what i thought but when you read the feedback from the courses it doesnt paint that picture
That's obviously because there trying to sell themselves, you'll only learn the basics which won't be enough to enable you to come straight out of the traps and earn a steady living. Doing a course won't be a bad thing to give you basic understanding of the fundamentals, but nothing is going to beat working alongside a proper pro tiler for long enough until you have the ability, skill and confidence to be able to earn your own living. It might be enough to get you a start with a proper tile company as part of a squad as an apprentice, which would be very valuable experience. How old are you?
 
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MTiler

The younger you are the more options you have.
Due to redundancy I did a four week course, I was in my 40s with a mortgage to pay etc. so didnt have the luxury of being able to do an apprenticeship or finding someone to work along side etc.
Although my first job I helped out another tiler and he ripped me off and didnt pay me.

If you want to do a course do at least 4 weeks.

sharon
 
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Aston

if you have no experience whatsoever in tile, basic DIY or another area of construction, then 13 days isn't enough experience to go out and work on peoples properties or be classed as 'self employed'
I'd say you should wait 3-6 months before you enter self employment if you fall into the above category ie no prior experience whatsoever and that depends on the ability of the individual as well??

in fact, i think the whole forum and the tile world in general needs to stop saying 'they were' taught to tile by a course because they were not.

if you did 1 week, then you got a weeks worth of experience
if you did 13 days, then you got 13 days experience
if you did 4 weeks, then? you got 4 weeks experience.

what happened was, you did a period of time in a simulated setting, learned the basics THEN, came on here, worked with other tilers, read books, watched youtube vids, went on further trade related courses, maybe attended college, spent a few months/years practicing and improving and possibly done your NVQ's AND THEN you became a tiler...Surely, you have to be proficient before you go self employed and 13 days is not enough.

Nobody should ever give a tile course the credit or the acknowledgment that they taught you to tile UNLESS you did a course and went straight out there and only ever used the methods they gave you and I doubt very much that's the case...A course is a starting point or addition of knowledge and course owners should not be telling people they are tilers or ready for self employment after 13 days with no other prior development.

this is not an attack on tile courses, this is plain common sense that anybody can surely understand. if you are desperate/vulnerable or naive, people will always tell you what you want to hear won't they
 
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sean3062

That's obviously because there trying to sell themselves, you'll only learn the basics which won't be enough to enable you to come straight out of the traps and earn a steady living. Doing a course won't be a bad thing to give you basic understanding of the fundamentals, but nothing is going to beat working alongside a proper pro tiler for long enough until you have the ability, skill and confidence to be able to earn your own living. It might be enough to get you a start with a proper tile company as part of a squad as an apprentice, which would be very valuable experience. How old are you?

im 54 and would class my self as a decent diyer
 
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sean3062

The younger you are the more options you have.
Due to redundancy I did a four week course, I was in my 40s with a mortgage to pay etc. so didnt have the luxury of being able to do an apprenticeship or finding someone to work along side etc.
Although my first job I helped out another tiler and he ripped me off and didnt pay me.

If you want to do a course do at least 4 weeks.

sharon

Thanks for replies ive found a 6 week course with ableskills and i have money set aside to last me 6 months without any work, im 54 years ol and am looking to change careers
 
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Time's Ran Out

54.
Too late now!
Save your money and get a job without any stress. This is the best job in the world but by the time you get established you'll be too old to enjoy it.
It's definitely a young mans game or lady if you hit a niche market and I'am the prime example. Old , grumpy, miserable and downbeat! But I have a young son of 33 who keeps me going.
And I love it!
Good luck with whatever you choose.
 
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Italy

if you have no experience whatsoever in tile, basic DIY or another area of construction, then 13 days isn't enough experience to go out and work on peoples properties or be classed as 'self employed'
I'd say you should wait 3-6 months before you enter self employment if you fall into the above category ie no prior experience whatsoever and that depends on the ability of the individual as well??

in fact, i think the whole forum and the tile world in general needs to stop saying 'they were' taught to tile by a course because they were not.

if you did 1 week, then you got a weeks worth of experience
if you did 13 days, then you got 13 days experience
if you did 4 weeks, then? you got 4 weeks experience.

what happened was, you did a period of time in a simulated setting, learned the basics THEN, came on here, worked with other tilers, read books, watched youtube vids, went on further trade related courses, maybe attended college, spent a few months/years practicing and improving and possibly done your NVQ's AND THEN you became a tiler...Surely, you have to be proficient before you go self employed and 13 days is not enough.

Nobody should ever give a tile course the credit or the acknowledgment that they taught you to tile UNLESS you did a course and went straight out there and only ever used the methods they gave you and I doubt very much that's the case...A course is a starting point or addition of knowledge and course owners should not be telling people they are tilers or ready for self employment after 13 days with no other prior development.

this is not an attack on tile courses, this is plain common sense that anybody can surely understand. if you are desperate/vulnerable or naive, people will always tell you what you want to hear won't they
this is the truth..........
I would add,
Then, you have to pray to God and find a true master, which leaves you steal the tricks of the trade. (Because you, must steal).
otherwise, will be too, one of many "tilers".
and nowadays, you have to know how to make a difference.
I'll be honest, I have spent more than five years before they launch me alone.
and even now, are an apprentice.
 
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54.
Too late now!
Save your money and get a job without any stress. This is the best job in the world but by the time you get established you'll be too old to enjoy it.
It's definitely a young mans game or lady if you hit a niche market and I'am the prime example. Old , grumpy, miserable and downbeat! But I have a young son of 33 who keeps me going.
And I love it!
Good luck with whatever you choose.

Its not the job that's made you miserable and downbeat. It's the mags.:D
 
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Italy

54.
Too late now!
Save your money and get a job without any stress. This is the best job in the world but by the time you get established you'll be too old to enjoy it.
It's definitely a young mans game or lady if you hit a niche market and I'am the prime example. Old , grumpy, miserable and downbeat! But I have a young son of 33 who keeps me going.
And I love it!
Good luck with whatever you choose.
all true, at 54, a tiler, is already in a slowing phase.
(Already for many years)
 

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