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Discuss Adhesives (American Terms) ? in the US & Canada at TilersForums; Was looking through a book, believe it's published in America written by M Byrne, and it refers to different adhesives as: Organic Mastic. Thinset Adhesive. Polymer-modified Thinset Adhesive. Can anyone ...
          
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    Question Adhesives (American Terms) ?

    Was looking through a book, believe it's published in America written by M Byrne, and it refers to different adhesives as:

    Organic Mastic.

    Thinset Adhesive.

    Polymer-modified Thinset Adhesive.



    Can anyone tell me what these adhesives equate to in UK.

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    Not really sure about the full answer but I think thinset equates to our normal adhesive and polymer modified is flexy adhesive. Organic mastic, maybe silicone?

    I am sure DH will post an answer soon though.

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    Organic Mastic. = bucket (should be banned )

    Thinset Adhesive. = cement based


    Polymer-modified Thinset Adhesive. = Polymer-modified cement based

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    Spot on pete....mastic is bucket stuff..and so on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjc View Post
    Organic Mastic. = bucket (should be banned )

    Thinset Adhesive. = cement based

    Polymer-modified Thinset Adhesive. = Polymer-modified cement based
    What do you mean by Bucket stuff ... ready mixed tub ?

    And

    Is Polymer-Modified ... Flexi ?

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    you got it Jimmy

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    Thanx fellas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Boy View Post
    Was looking through a book, believe it's published in America written by M Byrne, and it refers to different adhesives as:

    Organic Mastic.

    Thinset Adhesive.

    Polymer-modified Thinset Adhesive.



    Can anyone tell me what these adhesives equate to in UK.
    cowboy is the guy to ask...he is from the USA version of this site and has just started posting...maybe you could say howdy.....Gaz


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    You all answered befor I could get on today!

    I couldn`t have described the meanings any better.

    Mastic= pre mixed in the bucket ,organic compound that takes forever to fully cure/dry, behind tiles unless you wait weeks or months to grout & still that questionable ? needs lots of air to cure ,why do ya think it stays workable in the bucket with the lid on ?? :-)

    Thinset = Is a very broad term over here , cememt based powder form in bags is all called thinset! Be it modified(flexi) latex or polimers added or un- modified =(no latex or polimers added=dry set)
    I use mostly un-modified bags with liquid/milk to make it modified . unless I`m setting on Ditra or Kerdi .

    Hope this helps !
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    One More thing! Over here on the other side of the pond, we don`t call thinsets or mastics , or epoxy setting materials or any thing to set tile with "adhesives" over here if you say adhesive you get "Glue",
    White sand & blue water !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboy View Post
    One More thing! Over here on the other side of the pond, we don`t call thinsets or mastics , or epoxy setting materials or any thing to set tile with "adhesives" over here if you say adhesive you get "Glue",
    So you'd call it Mud... right?
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    Mud..is a term for screeding......

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    Dan is kinda right , again we`ll use the term "mud" very looslly in conversation . Like I`ll say " It took me so ling to prep out the floor ,I didn`t start slinging mud till 11 o clock!! "

    But Dave is realy right, cause the word mud or mudding is a mixture of portland cement & sand to create/screed a flat/level base in which to set your tile or stone on.

    Floor mud is called "Deck Mud" usually 4 or 5 to 1 mix Or add 1 part lime to the mix & you have what we call "Fat Mud" for walls or ceilings usually over a wire mesh of some sort ,some times done in two parts , scratch coat then come back later & do final coat/screed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboy View Post
    Dan is kinda right , again we`ll use the term "mud" very looslly in conversation . Like I`ll say " It took me so ling to prep out the floor ,I didn`t start slinging mud till 11 o clock!! "

    But Dave is realy right, cause the word mud or mudding is a mixture of portland cement & sand to create/screed a flat/level base in which to set your tile or stone on.

    Floor mud is called "Deck Mud" usually 4 or 5 to 1 mix Or add 1 part lime to the mix & you have what we call "Fat Mud" for walls or ceilings usually over a wire mesh of some sort ,some times done in two parts , scratch coat then come back later & do final coat/screed.
    over here your mud..or cement/sand mix is called render,this is usually used as scratch coat on interior walls for smoother gypsum plaster to finish, and outside walls ,with various types of finish..textures and strengths....Gaz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz @ Topps View Post
    over here your mud..or cement/sand mix is called render,this is usually used as scratch coat on interior walls for smoother gypsum plaster to finish, and outside walls ,with various types of finish..textures and strengths....Gaz

    I guess we learn somethig new every day!!! "Render" Heck its even in Wikipedia !
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    Screed or render they are both sand and cement mix..... terminology eh!! don't you just luv it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboy View Post
    I guess we learn somethig new every day!!! "Render" Heck its even in Wikipedia !
    render has other meanings too....like I am not working tomorrow so am drinking loads of Guinness, to render my self incapable.....lol

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    So that means we are going to get some incomprehensible posts later then gazza mate... ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhceramics View Post
    So that means we are going to get some incomprehensible posts later then gazza mate... ....
    probably...lol

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    Yea I saw the other meanings as well !! You guys are bloody hiliarious!!!
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    isnt that normal Dave

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    Well pete ....err...........ehmmmm...........ahhhh.......... ........YES.....

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