Originally Posted by Sir Ramic

This is drifting off topic !

Sorry mate.... yes it is.

Back to clips...... give it a go. I will have anybodies unused LASH clips if they dont like them

Originally Posted by blocko

Back to clips...... give it a go. I will have anybodies unused LASH clips if they dont like them

Ditto!

For those reading this thread. The system has various choices such as

Thanks for that Neale, interesting to note they all make a point of stating the floor must be leveled prior to tile installation. I do spend the most time preparing floors, with slc and my own ( quirky) some might say methods. I can prep the worst floor, given the time and effort required is reflected in the price.

The prep work for me is paramount, I can guarantee if I am allowed to prep the floor using my methods, you could play pool on them. Again it all comes down to cost, if the customer will pay the price, then I can give them a super flat surface to tile on.

If you do have a flat floor, after prep, then I would think using the correct solid bed trowel, it is not hard to get a lip free floor.

I am not knocking these systems after all they are all a variation on a theme. But I think if you get the prep right, the tiling is a lot easier. Just my opinion, and I am still looking forward to everyone's input.

Yeah well I dont think they should be called a levelling system....anti lippage system seems more fitting.

Cheers Neale, I just think it could be misleading to some folks, as you say, if your sub-floor is not flat then no amount of lash clips etc will help. 600mmx600mm rectified edge porcelain will not bend.

Originally Posted by Phil Hobson

Cheers Neale, I just think it could be misleading to some folks, as you say, if your sub-floor is not flat then no amount of lash clips etc will help. 600mmx600mm rectified edge porcelain will not bend.

yeah but didnt you know that if you use flexible adhesive it will make the tiles bend ??? .....Joke !

Originally Posted by Sir Ramic

yeah but didnt you know that if you use flexible adhesive it will make the tiles bend ??? .....Joke !

Lol...... With a bit of editing, I'm gonna quote you on that in the futur...


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Originally Posted by Sir Ramic

yeah but didnt you know that if you use flexible adhesive it will make the tiles bend ??? .....Joke !

if only

So I had a chance to use the Lash clips today. Last week I started a 55m2 floor and I was laying the 600x600 porcelain tiles in the time honoured method with my trusty white rubber hammer. I had no issues at all doing it this way but as I have already stated, Curiosity got the better of me and I gave the lash clip system a go.
I had a small area to tile off the main floor area so this is where I tried it. I have to say I was much quicker the old way. The clips caused too much mess and pushing the wedges in made my fingers hurt after a few minutes.
At least I tried and I will probably try again at some point but not in the near future.
So my honest verdict is

I won't throw away my trusty white rubber hammer just yet, Neale, thanks for that.

Anyone want to buy 100 lash clips and wedges!!?

Originally Posted by davemul

Anyone want to buy 100 lash clips and wedges!!?

Not really !

Alright for some to be on LASH all day..

An honest review........thanks mate. Just shows its not everybodys cup of tea

Originally Posted by Dave

Alright for some to be on LASH all day..

Not all day....I gave them an hour !

We have been using the tradetiler lashing clips for some time and they are really usefull especially if you are working with ultra large format (1200x900) tiles which often arent actually flat as you can use the clips to bend the tiles to your will though we do use latex plus in the Mapei adhesive to make sure it doesnt bend back later :-)
We went to a trade day at Mapei a couple of weeks ago and the Rubi rep showed us the Rubi tile leveling system...I'm afraid we werent impressed, the system simply didn't work. The clips kept snapping when you squeesed the tool hard enough to level the lipping tiles and these were just little 300x300x8mm porcelain!
I haven't tried the Raimondi system yet as I think its a little rich designing it to have a wall and a floor system so you have to buy two different setting tools...that just greedy.
Terry

IMO, these lash systems will always give you perfect results on the surface no matter how un even the sub floor is, however if proper prep work is not carried out then we simply create voids everywhere witch will result in failure! How flat do the manufacturers recommend the sub floor be to use these correctly? This is what we must ask because if they are recommending it be spot on then whats the point in a leveling system?

Think about it, Its called a leveling system and they recommend you use it on sub floors that are near perfect! If this is the case then it does nothing!

I think calling them a "leveling system" is misleading....you still have to lay the tiles level as usual however they can be usefull for eliminating the odd 1mm lipp that wont behave.

Some adhesives slump as they cure, so these systems would eliminate slumpage. Not a system I have tried yet.

Originally Posted by Sir Ramic

Yeah well I dont think they should be called a levelling system....anti lippage system seems more fitting.

Originally Posted by terrygrant

I think calling them a "leveling system" is misleading....you still have to lay the tiles level as usual however they can be usefull for eliminating the odd 1mm lipp that wont behave.

I am for the first time using the lash clips on a job I'm still currently doing, 2500sq of 24" by 48" porcelain tile installed on a subway pattern. For this size tile the lash clips really do work and does speed up the installation. My fingers are really sore from pressing the wedge into the clip. The floor really has to be a flat surface for the system to work as it is stated on the lash clip package. The lash clip is rounded at the bottom which keeps the tile higher off the floor reducing the contact of the tile, you won't get full contact on tile but just enough contact. It does take sometime to get the hang of it. The clips are easily removed by kicking the clips. I can see a big advantage on installing large format tile on walls using the lash system. I think the Raimondi clips might be better as they are not available in my area. After watching a video on their web site their clips are flat at the bottom which will give you better tile contact. They have tool that squeezes the wedge into the clip which means you won't have sore fingers.

Saw the Genesis version of these at a trade day this week.