Hi There, i'm new to tiling and i'm in a dilemma...i've used the Rubi TR600S previously but i was thinking of buying a Rubi TX700N after hearing some good reviews of it. But am i then going to need a smaller cutter for splashbacks etc or will this cutter cover me for most work?

Also, i don't know know how wide the feet of the moving breaker are as someone told me that you couldn't cut glass mosaic with it where you can with the Montolit Piuma due to it's smaller breaker!?!? Is this right?

Any suggestions welcome!

The tx is no good for small mosaics...you are right...

But the tr 400s is,, coz i have one...

As for the difference between montolit and rubi....

mmmm montolit is a longer word......

It's upto a tilers choice of cutter...what works for one might not for another..

Montolit masterpiumer in it's various sizes will do almost everything you would need to do. Best thing to do is try to get a demo and see if it "works" for you. I have the Masterpiuma 63, Dave is a devout Rubi man!!!

I Like rubi cutters cos thats what ive used. Cant see that there is any right or wrong.
If your anywhere near pop in to see Dave at Tradetiler Tradetiler.com Home very helpful bloke sure he will demo whatever you want and do you a good deal
let us know your decision an you may win a Rubi hat (montolit dont do a hat cos their names too long to go on the front)
have you considerd the Sigma?

I find the Rubi cutters easier to use, mainly for 2 reasons. Firstly because of the vision of the scoring wheel and secondly because the Montolit base tends to have a lot of movement in it when you score towards the end of the tile...don't know if anyone else has found this??

I think i'll end up with a new Rubi. Would you say that a TX700N and something like a TS40 is what could get me by initially? Do you think that cover for 'most' jobs as such for someone new to tiling???

I would go for the rubi TS 50 plus a good all round cutter TradeTiler.Ltd Rubi TS PLUS Manual Tile Cutters

Originally Posted by Spen

I find the Rubi cutters easier to use, mainly for 2 reasons. Firstly because of the vision of the scoring wheel and secondly because the Montolit base tends to have a lot of movement in it when you score towards the end of the tile...don't know if anyone else has found this??

I think i'll end up with a new Rubi. Would you say that a TX700N and something like a TS40 is what could get me by initially? Do you think that cover for 'most' jobs as such for someone new to tiling???

Nope!!

The downside to rubi cutting machines they dont last anymore , they aint built to last the ts40 ts 50 fall apart , spend money on the tx model put together better and the breaking arm works better can see it lasting, gone through 5 ts40 and 2 ts 50 in the last 3 years says it all , stopped using them its a shame they use to be better. still got the tm70 which i brought 20 years ago and still works and nothing has gone wrong with it
regards
marbleman
but it seems most cutting machines are poorly made now and not made to last

Cheers marbleman, i didn't realise picking a cutter would be such a dilemma and take so long!? I haven't even started on the wet cutter yet!

I can only give advice on what tools i have used the last 30 years
Raymondi wet cutter cant buy much better, easy to clean, never had to change pump on either machine, good cutting length, and has wheels on the machine for easy moving,
only issue i have is the guide wears to easily, but then thats like most on the market , i have had raymondi now for 6 years and they still going strong,
Rubi wet cutters are ok, but found they jam to easily and pumps fail,but then i could of been unlucky
regards
marbleman

Originally Posted by Spen

I find the Rubi cutters easier to use, mainly for 2 reasons. Firstly because of the vision of the scoring wheel and secondly because the Montolit base tends to have a lot of movement in it when you score towards the end of the tile...don't know if anyone else has found this??

I think i'll end up with a new Rubi. Would you say that a TX700N and something like a TS40 is what could get me by initially? Do you think that cover for 'most' jobs as such for someone new to tiling???

I think that they'll do just fine Spen

Originally Posted by marbleman

The downside to rubi cutting machines they dont last anymore , they aint built to last the ts40 ts 50 fall apart , spend money on the tx model put together better and the breaking arm works better can see it lasting, gone through 5 ts40 and 2 ts 50 in the last 3 years says it all , stopped using them its a shame they use to be better. still got the tm70 which i brought 20 years ago and still works and nothing has gone wrong with it
regards
marbleman
but it seems most cutting machines are poorly made now and not made to last

Would they be still under warranty mate?

3 votes here for rubi

Originally Posted by grumpygrouter

Montolit masterpiumer in it's various sizes will do almost everything you would need to do. Best thing to do is try to get a demo and see if it "works" for you. I have the Masterpiuma 63, Dave is a devout Rubi man!!!

What weight is your Montolit has it cut everything you have used on it perfect

As a company Rubi have been going for time. And their design hasn't changed much at all (required: the post about rubi and their age and cutter design, showing the wooden tile cutter)

Though the other one, never heard of them! (joke).

The thing thats niggling me is that my friend says that because of it's light weight, he just has a Masterpiuma 63 and and mini montolit and it covers him for everthing he comes accross at a cost of around £290 for both. I prefer the use of the Rubi's but i'm then looking at £480 and a hell of a lot more weight for a TX700N and a TR400s (for smaller tiles and mosaics which the Monty does). Thats nearly £200 more...............hmmmmmm........am i being wrongly biased towards the Rubi brand rather than going for what sounds like the lighter, cheaper more versatile option??? Or is he blowng moke up my @ss and just defending his cutter with his life!!?

It's what works for you, albeit rubi or monolit or any other make

A new light weight TX700n is coming to the uk in the next couple months...

It has a full alloy body.....so the choice is yours...

Is the weight quite restricting then for he 700 or do you forget about it after a while? Couple of months eh, any idea how much lighter it'll be?

I have the TX700n and the weight doesn't bother me...

The newer model is alloy so about half the weight it is now...

Originally Posted by Wylie

What weight is your Montolit has it cut everything you have used on it perfect

Only tile I have had trouble with is a heavily riven Pietre de Keope full body porcelain...had plenty of power but the riven surface prohibited a good score so the tile broke along a "fault line" if you see what I mean? Weight wise can be carried in 1 hand.

When I first started out, I purchased a Rubi Tr600s and a Montolit 24. The Rubi seems to tackle everything I need it to and fits nicely over a bath. The Monty is spot on for small jobs and splashbacks. I'm gonna be getting a larger Rubi soon, but that is because I like Rubi's and I am doing a lot more large fomat stuff now.

When starting out, you are best sticking to the smaller format jobs until you have gained more experience and confidence, so the TX may be overkill for your initial needs...

Originally Posted by Spen

Is the weight quite restricting then for he 700 or do you forget about it after a while? Couple of months eh, any idea how much lighter it'll be?

the big one is quite heavy, the smaller one is a tx700

Nice pic doug......haven't seen that one before.....

I think i've seen that pic about 10 times and i've only been a member for a few weeks Doug! I've never known anyone who loves their TX700N like you do (you could be partly to blame for my desire to get one!)

I get what Captain Slow is saying although is the 600KG breaker on the 600 underpowered for the bigger stuff? Are the breaking feet close enough together for for cutting small mosaics like Dave says the TR400s is?