just got a new dry cutter its a genesis super pro Has anyone used them before or even heard of them? any comments woiuld be apprecciated jay

WHERE DID YOU BUY IT FROM jAY?

bought it from north east tile traning wqhile i was on the course

Ok m8,the cutters are ok m8 but there is better out there.I have one myself and they are good for doing cuts od the diamond and the breaking mechanism is good but it does struggle a little when it comes across thick porcelain tiles as the bars start to bend,this is what i have found anyway m8 but they are good for starting off with.

thanks for that brian m8 it will have to do until i get enough jobs to pay for a better wan cheers bud mone the gers!

Im sure it will be fine m8 ,mine is still going no probs,cant really fault it except for the breaking of thick tiles as i said.

cheers m8 we are the people!

YIP, THE BARS BENT A BIT AS BRI SAYS WHEN IT TACKLES THICK PORC BUT IT WILL GET YOU BY FOR THE FIRST YEAR OR 2. Ideal cutter when startin out.

cheers 4 that charlie

I think most cutters are going to struggle with thick porcelain and some porcelain is so dense that any dry cutter wont break it, the key i find in breaking porcelain is in the deep score line and a quick snap

as darren sez some porcelain wont cut no matter which dry cutter you use, i had to use a bridge cutter on tiles from fired earth , bathroom took me twice as long to tile , some other porcs struggle to get a clean break...

I've got the Genisis and its great for ceramics and not too bad with some porcelain.When I've had thick tiles I've used the rubi ts60 from topps and each time its not broken them so like some of the other guys have said it will do you well.

I've got a 400 genisis, Good for smaller tiles and diagonals cheaper not a bad cutter

ive used rubis all my life the only one i have not used is the new rubi sigma type cutter.
i bought a genesis 600 cutter and to be honest it cuts better than any cutter i have ever used,although it cuts better than anything else thats where the quality ends.
the build quality is poor,the gauge is useless the rubber mat falls off within a day or so,the cutting tools are real crap(you can use rubi bits which fit perfect),the snaping system works loose and flops really quickly so you have to keep tightening the screw,then its to bloody tight,the box clips are crap,the rubber stops on the bottom to stop it scratching surfaces fall off all the time.
now after that little slagging i still think they are the best breaker ive ever used even with porce.
i only tried this cutter as i was getting so ****ed off with my ts50+ and tr60s and i got the genesis dirt cheap,and ive yet to find anything it wont cut it also cuts thin strips fairly well ie 15mm off 400x400 good quality porcenot that you should have to do this ie:i had done a kitchen then the punter decides to have the hall done as well,so the set out was all to cock.
genesis need to do there homework on build quality,but rubi need to look at there breaking quality.
my next buy will probably be a sigma 700 or if the reports are good enough i might try the new sigma copy cutter as its a lot cheaper i think,so if it breaks as good as sigma i may go for that,just waiting on more opinions.

Why risk it with the 'sigma copy' rubi @ £175 when you can get the real thing
(a Sigma S3B for £230). That's an extra £55 for the 'real McCoy'. It's all about opinions but I wouldn't touch a Rubi again (unless they come out with a complete new range) after using and buying 2 Sigmas. And after how their rep deals with after care service on a new £700 bridge cutter, I would be reluctant to buy anything Rubi. It may sound like I have an axe to grind with Rubi (maybe I have??). Their TS60 plus can't handle porcelain and their after care service is wanting - that's been my experience anyway....

Andrew

Andrew

All cutters have their ups and downs IMO. Personally I think the Montolits and Sigmas have the edge. I started with a CT 1 which sounds like this Genesis cutter a twin rail system. Against the Montolit it fades into insignificance but you only get what you pay for IMO. For everyday stuff I am sure your Genesis will get you started until you get more experience or come across something it won't cut but until then persevere.

These single rail cutters from Rubi have been out for a while now! Any feedback on them from the people who have them?

Kev

Originally Posted by Sully

Why risk it with the 'sigma copy' rubi @ £175 when you can get the real thing
(a Sigma S3B for £230). That's an extra £55 for the 'real McCoy'. It's all about opinions but I wouldn't touch a Rubi again (unless they come out with a complete new range) after using and buying 2 Sigmas. And after how their rep deals with after care service on a new £700 bridge cutter, I would be reluctant to buy anything Rubi. It may sound like I have an axe to grind with Rubi (maybe I have??). Their TS60 plus can't handle porcelain and their after care service is wanting - that's been my experience anyway....

Andrew

Andrew

everything you said about rubi i agree with scully !! i was talked out of buying a rubi bridge cos of poor build quality and went for a rodia instead, sold my ts70 cos it was hopeless, and replaced it with a monty..

I can see i'm gonna have to be careful when it comes to buying tools. Everything i'd read before this thread seemed to suggest that Rubi was the way to go... Now i have no idea at all!

Originally Posted by Sully

Why risk it with the 'sigma copy' rubi @ £175 when you can get the real thing
(a Sigma S3B for £230). That's an extra £55 for the 'real McCoy'. It's all about opinions but I wouldn't touch a Rubi again (unless they come out with a complete new range) after using and buying 2 Sigmas. And after how their rep deals with after care service on a new £700 bridge cutter, I would be reluctant to buy anything Rubi. It may sound like I have an axe to grind with Rubi (maybe I have??). Their TS60 plus can't handle porcelain and their after care service is wanting - that's been my experience anyway....

Andrew

Andrew

It does take a measure of skill to use the rubi correctly.

Monty and sigmas are far to bulky. The rubi is a machine of finesse.

Originally Posted by Branty

Monty and sigmas are far to bulky. The rubi is a machine of finesse.

A 630mm Sigma is probably less bulky than even a TS600, nevermind the TX range.

The only Rubi I have that I like is the TX. The TS, and TS+, are nowhere near as good as my Sigmas.

But I have to say, after seeing Lee from Rubi demostrate the new TI range, if I were to buy a new cutter tomorrow it would be the TI.

Very much like the Sigma, but with a wee bit more thought put into it.

Originally Posted by beanz

I can see i'm gonna have to be careful when it comes to buying tools. Everything i'd read before this thread seemed to suggest that Rubi was the way to go... Now i have no idea at all!

That's the beuty of a forum like this beanz, everyones uses something different and can share their own experiences, best thing to do is 'try before you buy' so to speak, and buy the one you like best.

Peronally use Rubi and i am more than happy with the products they produce. A HUGE company who are not afraid to change when a change is needed (hence the new cutters). Have TS cutters 40, 50 and 60, TX 700 and 900 and never had a single problem with them, if a part breaks or is lost it is very easy to replace as they are available from most tile dealers on the web, even down to a catch on the case. However Rubi have obviously thought they can improve there products which they have. As for cutting the likes of Porcelain you show me a better tool for the job than something from the TX range, nothing comes near them.

Is there a cutter out there that can cut the Peronda Museum range of tiles?

Originally Posted by Branty

Monty and sigmas are far to bulky. The rubi is a machine of finesse.

you ever used the tx 1200 branty ?? its funny how some people get all loyal to a brand no matter what, i have rubi , sigma and monty cutters and i dont care about brand just which cutters can do the job best and without a shadow of doubt the siggy and monty are better, the only cutter i aint tried is the rubi ti...

Why does everyone have so many cutters!?! Would you not use the same set of cutters for every job, or is it best to use the smallest one's the job will allow?

I try to use the smallest one for the job,No point in using a TX700 for mosaic

Originally Posted by whitebeam

I try to use the smallest one for the job,No point in using a TX700 for mosaic

Yeah i guess that makes sense

I'm just trying to get my head around all the tools i'll need, as i want to start buying them soon (while the money's in the bank hehe!).

Originally Posted by beanz

Why does everyone have so many cutters!?! Would you not use the same set of cutters for every job, or is it best to use the smallest one's the job will allow?

You can never have enough cutters

Originally Posted by James@BAL

You can never have enough cutters