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Boosha · 18-06-2008

As everyone seems to be raving about the brevetti's i have had a look into them on ebay and KS. I have also found someone on ebay.it who sells them however I dont know whether they send them to the UK and if I would end up paying any crazy taxes as per usual for this country.

Can you tell me also why they make life "so much easier".

Thanks peeps.

**grumpygrouter** · 18-06-2008

Whether they make life easier is a matter of opinion Boosha. I Bought my monty after using both Montolit and Rubi during my training. There are advantages to both of these brands. I chose Montolit because for me at the time, it was a more "complete" cutter. I couldn't afford to buy 2 or 3 different cutters so I bought the one that I thought "did the most" for the money.

As yet I have not regretted my decision.

Monolit has 1 action for scoring and cutting i.e. push to score and then push down on the handle at the end of the score to snap. There is also a "moving" breaker built in that will cut mosaics or allow a break part of the way down the tile, for instance for cutting out a slot after wet cutting the 2 side cuts.

Rubi's main benefit (for some) is the fact that the scoring wheel is visible. it is not so visible on the monty but once you learn techniques to get around this you don't need to see it anyway.

One big benefit of the monty is power. The breaker system is adjusted to suit the tile thickness so you don't "over press" and crush the tile. Once adjusted correctly for your tile you can even hit the handle with a mallet to break incredibly strong tiles.

my advice is, if possible, try out both types of cutter to see which best suits you.

**Dave** · 18-06-2008

Rubi have also brought out the Ti range of cutters which work like the montolit and sigma ranges.....they come in two cutting sizes in both designs...66cm and 75cm anf you can get both these new cutters from buybrandtools.......... http://www.buybrandtools.com/acatalog/Rubi-TI-Tile-Cutters.html

Rubi TI-66-S Tile Cutter

Ref: RT-12905

Rubi TI-S professional tile cutter with single guide rail
Maximum cutting length: 66cm (26")
Cutting thickness: 5-20mm (3/16-13/16")
Separator power: 1,000kg (2.204lb)
Cuts "forwards" with "push" action
Multi-point angular measurement system swivels 45° forwards or backwards
Aluminium handle with plastic base - less friction, more life
Reinforced steel on the last 10cm of the cutting line
Exclusive scoring wheels for the TI range. The scoring wheel fixing point is not a weak point. No oil required
No carry case available - no easily breakable parts
Includes 10mm scoring wheel & 5 year warranty

Rubi TI-66-T Tile Cutter

Ref: RT-12907

Rubi TI-T professional tile cutter with single guide rail
Maximum cutting length: 66cm (26")
Cutting thickness: 5-20mm (3/16-13/16")
Separator power: 1,000kg (2.204lb)
Cuts "backwards" with "pull" action
Multi-point angular measurement system swivels 45° forwards or backwards
Aluminium handle with plastic base - less friction, more life
Reinforced steel on the last 10cm of the cutting line
Exclusive scoring wheels for the TI range. The scoring wheel fixing point is not a weak point. No oil required
No carry case available - no easily breakable parts
Includes 10mm scoring wheel & 5 year warranty

frankenfurter · 18-06-2008

I've always like the masterpiuma pull action, all the excellent bits grumpy mentioned but with the pull action there's better visibility of the scoring wheel.

The master montolit is also a really nice cutter although a slower way of cutting tiles. But it'll cut almost anything with ease.

Frank

**sWe** · 18-06-2008

Here's input from someone (not me) who's tried the TI66, and who can compare it to the Masterpiuma:

"oh, for gods sake dont get the t1-66s. as i said it s the best rubi to date but, the build quality isnt as good as the monti and the cut and the ease of cut just doesnt compare."

'Nuff said

Mind you, I don't think Rubi make bad cutters (in fact, I kind of liked the TS-30 for small tiles), but from the ones I've tried, I'd say there are better ways to spend your tool budget.

18-06-2008

totally agree with that person that swe quoted lol

if you want a cutter that performs like a montolit or sigma for that matter, then buy a montolit or a sigma.

if you like rubi then buy what they do best. the ts and tx range

19-06-2008

a few people are going on about not being able to see the line when you scribe on a montolit push cutter but, you simply place the mark on your tile right infront of the zero number in the middle of the measuring gauge and thats bang in line with the scoring wheel, so you dont have to learn over to see were you scribe.

if you are doing a rake cut, then do as above for you top mark and then place the bottom pencil mark right on the groove on the tile cutter bed and again you will be fine for you cuts without developing a crick in your neck lol

hope this helps.
maybe grumps and swe have more tips?

**grumpygrouter** · 19-06-2008

The way I do it for rake cuts - I mark the tile where the cut needs to be, I then line up the front mark on the tile with the centre datum mark at the front of the cutter. I then move my head fractionally to one side until the cutter bar top edge is in line with the now just visible front mark at the datum. Keeping my head in the same place, line up the rear tile mark with the cutter bar top edge, when you are sure it is in line, make your score and cut.

Sounds long winded when you write it but it isn't, it is actually very quick and very accurate.

andy-p · 19-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by sWe

Here's input from someone (not me) who's tried the TI66, and who can compare it to the Masterpiuma:

"oh, for gods sake dont get the t1-66s. as i said it s the best rubi to date but, the build quality isnt as good as the monti and the cut and the ease of cut just doesnt compare."

'Nuff said

Mind you, I don't think Rubi make bad cutters (in fact, I kind of liked the TS-30 for small tiles), but from the ones I've tried, I'd say there are better ways to spend your tool budget.

hi

just bought the new rubi ti-66s based on the montolit masterpiuma and its superb!!! a few people wanted to know what its like because its so new , well its going to definately faze out the tr600 and i cant see the point in buying the ts60 either after using this because its 3kgs lighter than a ts60, its only 89cm and 33cm at its widest point. its has 1000kg breaking pressure (same as tx700n) and it cuts upto 66cm tiles (more than a masterpiuma) and the big advantage is you are not restricted to straight cuts because of the moveable breaker.

the build quality is excellent and you get a 5 yr g/tee.
its got solid flexible support legs that flick out and the measuring gauge sits on the side when not in use and clamps in place. the measuring gauge is in one piece but can be adjusted in 2 places for convenience and can be fitted in literally 5 seconds. when you scribe, you lift up the handle and the breaker flicks down like the monti but it comes with protective strips on so not to mark the tiles when you break.

it doesnt come with a case but to be honest you dont need one, theres nothing to lose on it and you can just pick it up by the single overhead rail. it has a quick release scribing wheel which is solidly locked in place and cannot fall out.

a friend of mine whos a tiler has been using it today cutting all sorts of off cuts of hard porc and he has bought one straight away because he was so impressed.
the only problem is, if you are really used to using the ts range then you might not like the thought of getting used to the slightly different pressure technique that you use to break tiles but tbh, you get the hang of it within 5 mins and its the business. this cutter has been being demo'd all week in scotland and the orders have been flying in. i agree with swe that the push scribe is less waring on the wrist than the pull scribe, so i would go for the ti66s. the sigma version the (ti-t) pull scribe is out soon if thats what you'd prefare.

so swe, grumps and mark devon are right..montolit are excellent and rubi must think so to go to the effort of taking 2ys to design/improve/manufacture this new cutter..oh and £199-20p next day delivered free!!!!!

Make your mind up ffs !!

**Dave** · 19-06-2008

They are only £187.44 from buybrandtools........( ti-66s)........

Boosha · 21-06-2008

so which one do i go for then ! decisions decisons.

i think i prefer the rubi but if I can get one a montolit same spec for cheaper i think the price will win

21-06-2008

this is aimed at andy-p..

the best way to describe my change of opinion is like this....

liverpool had a number 7 called kevin keegan. i thought he was irreplacable and the best!!!! and then we signed kenny dalglish!!! are you getting my drift lol

seriously, the ti-66s is a good cutter and i still would rather have one than a ts60 plus. it has a some good selling points. the price, the weight, the moveable breaker, the breaking power, the measuring gauge but now that i have had the benefit of using the montolit my opinion has changed..

rubi will sell lots, montolit and sigma wont lose any customers and the world will keep turning......anyway, when you put your hand in your pocket and buy both then you are entitled to change your mind

For gods sake, dont anybody tell me that sigma are the best. ive spent enough