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    Default NVQ Floor and Wall Tiling- 3 years Experience- but I didnt?

    I have been doing an NVQ 2 in tiling at college since September and will finish the course in June but I have read posts that say you need 3 yrs experience to do an NVQ but I had no experience of tiling when i started the course? Any info appreciated

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    Default Re: NVQ Floor and Wall Tiling- 3 years Experience- but I didnt?

    where did you find this course from.... im from manchester and cant find any....

    What are the courses like. ive been tiling for about 8 months now and would love to learn advanced techniques

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    Default Re: NVQ Floor and Wall Tiling- 3 years Experience- but I didnt?

    I don't really think there is any "advanced techniques" in tiling, just more complicated pattens to create.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tysfoot View Post
    where did you find this course from.... im from manchester and cant find any....

    What are the courses like. ive been tiling for about 8 months now and would love to learn advanced techniques
    i think they do a nvq course in salford i cant remember where . i looked at it on the internet last year

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    Default Re: NVQ Floor and Wall Tiling- 3 years Experience- but I didnt?

    really, is it an NVQ

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    yeah i think so it was done in the evening

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    Hi all,

    Well, this is a common one that is raised Re: NVQ's.

    The NVQ programme for Tiling is written by the CAA, who also write the programme for the Intermediate Constrcution Award. The ICA is the FULL underpinning knowledge required for an NVQ2 in Tiling. This is how you can get an NVQ2 quickly instead of having to wait 3 years.

    They are basicaly saying that if you do 'our accredited training', then we know you have been trained correctly and therefore we can trust you to do an NVQ and pass it.

    If you have done your training elsewhere, even though it may be accredited by another awarding body, we can't trust the quality of the training and therefore require you to have 3 years experience, just in case

    We run a 26 week NVQ course, for potential tilers that have never touched a tile in their life. Needless to say, these courses are extrememely popular.

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    Default Re: NVQ Floor and Wall Tiling- 3 years Experience- but I didnt?

    they dont do the nvq at salford anymore the only places they do an nvq now is
    liverpool (where i went) accrington, and i believe they do it in preston now

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    Default Re: NVQ Floor and Wall Tiling- 3 years Experience- but I didnt?

    Well said Marbleman!

    I have been tiling for only 26 years so I am still an apprentice. lol

    It is quite rare to find situations where you get the perfect job.
    Substrates are never flat, levelling compound never self level, 95% of the time the tiles from diy stores are banana shaped, (it must be hard to make them that shape ) screws always stick out, Baths trays always out of level...... I can go for ever.

    So, unnless you build the wall and screed the floor yourself and do all fitting and any other prep yourself; what the teach you at school will be of little use. Products and techniques constantly changing so we need to adapt often.

    Use comonsense, read the info whenever available, don't cut corners, tell the customer that you need to do more preparation and charge accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnipSnap View Post
    Well said Marbleman!

    I have been tiling for only 26 years so I am still an apprentice. lol

    It is quite rare to find situations where you get the perfect job.
    Substrates are never flat, levelling compound never self level, 95% of the time the tiles from diy stores are banana shaped, (it must be hard to make them that shape ) screws always stick out, Baths trays always out of level...... I can go for ever.

    So, unnless you build the wall and screed the floor yourself and do all fitting and any other prep yourself; what the teach you at school will be of little use. Products and techniques constantly changing so we need to adapt often.

    Use comonsense, read the info whenever available, don't cut corners, tell the customer that you need to do more preparation and charge accordingly.
    self levelling try K15 from adruit or miruplan it does what its says on the bag and this one can be used on timber great material worth the extra cost
    marbleman

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    well said lads, you cant buy experience, as for the self leveling you have GOT to use a trowel to help it level, it is beyond me why they named it self leveling compound, i am a plasterer by trade and i use the stuff almost on a daily basis
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    Quote Originally Posted by floydyboy View Post
    well said lads, you cant buy experience, as for the self leveling you have GOT to use a trowel to help it level, it is beyond me why they named it self leveling compound, i am a plasterer by trade and i use the stuff almost on a daily basis
    use a roller alot easier than trowel and beleive you me done 1500 bags on my knees lol

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    i will give it a go but i was only stating that it needs help it wont level on its own
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    Quote Originally Posted by floydyboy View Post
    i will give it a go but i was only stating that it needs help it wont level on its own
    yes i agree with you it does need help and its not as easy as it says on the bag lol
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    Hi.... Taking an NVQ level 2 through OSAT ( on site assessment and training) will require you to have more than three years experince, because this type of assessment is for experienced workers only. Three or four visits over a period of twelve weeks should be enough time to gather the evidence required to obtain your NVQ. As for college based NVQ this will take a lot longer because you have to learn the trade first....I hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Beveridge View Post
    Hi.... Taking an NVQ level 2 through OSAT ( on site assessment and training) will require you to have more than three years experince, because this type of assessment is for experienced workers only. Three or four visits over a period of twelve weeks should be enough time to gather the evidence required to obtain your NVQ. As for college based NVQ this will take a lot longer because you have to learn the trade first....I hope this helps.
    Hi all,

    Just to comment on the post made by Gary if I may

    For NVQ OSAT @ level 2, you need a minimum of 3 years proven experience.

    However, if you choose to do your ICA, you can get your NVQ2 in 26 weeks.

    This is what we do at our centre, following the guidelines of the CAA


    Colleges however, run these courses over 2 years.



    Any more questions on this, then please fee free to ask

    Anthony
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbleman View Post
    use a roller alot easier than trowel and beleive you me done 1500 bags on my knees lol
    If your struggling to get the rollers, let us know. We can get hod of them for you

    Makes levelling floors a doddle

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaseTiling View Post
    If your struggling to get the rollers, let us know. We can get hod of them for you

    Makes levelling floors a doddle
    The roller is for getting rid of air trapped in. It will help slightly on spreading the compound.

    First though, you must use a Professional levelling compound spreader (I have used for over 2 years now. See the attached photo.) and you will see great improvements and because you use it standing up, it makes the job quicker and saves your knees.

    You can adjust the height required and because it has several pins it will even up bad areas better than your tile spreader would. I think the width is 80 cm or bigger.

    A word of caution when used on u/f heating wires as you could damage the wires with this tool. Also caution when using rollers as you can "spray" the adjasent walls and furniture with levelling compound. Always move it extra slow and parallel to the object/wall/doors...

    The best way to deal with leveling compound is to find out how much and where you need it. My approach is:

    1) to place a cross laser level on a pole, spreading the laser horizontaly from one corner of the room towards the opposite corner at a height of aprox. 1.1m,

    2) then get a 1.2 m spirit level and stand it in front of the laser beam.
    3) making sure that the spirit level is "Plumb", I make a mark where the laser shows on the spirit level.
    4) from then on I can cross reference that mark on the spirit level accross dozens of places to see how good/ bad the floor is.

    You can also stick some broken tiles with adhesive or sand and cement (according the height) as reference points so you know how much it needs raising.

    Hope this is useful to some of you.

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