deanotile

tiler burden

the nvq is a certificate...
alot depends on who taught you the syllabus,
your own standards
and more importantly how proficient you are in each category

the idea is good, the way its achieved in some cases needed rectifying!!!

one thing i can definately see is that nicky campbell from watch dog saying', why doesnt the customer get more protection form organisations? how come you need an nvq for sites but any joe can walk in your home unqualified with no formal vetting???

nvq by 2010 might not be applicable but you can bet your rubi ts60 it will be!!
everyone will jump on the band wagon. public liability ins companies will be the first...
now then mr jones, have you got an nvq to prove your cmpetence, no , ok your premium will be a grand a year because you are a risk!!! you heard it here 1st

Fekin

If that happens then all you'll find is more and more people not bothering to have insurance.

Fred

This is a bit of scare-mongering by some 'so-called' tile training centres who just want to get tilers through their doors to make even more money. Do you think the average private punter will understand this? Especially when you've been recommended by a previous punter, they just want a good job. Tiling isn't like gas/corgi as an example, yes do a correct job, but I can't see how they can govern this, can you?

I, for one, am C&G trained. So, my C&G stands for nothing in 2010? NVQ used to be site and college trained, now these private tiling centres can knock out an NVQ in 2-3 weeks training............something is very wrong here. IMO.

Dave

It takes longer than that fred.....

deanotile

I have not seen the rest of this thread so I my be talking out of turn hearer but you stated if you have achieved an ICA, then you can get your NVQ2 in 20 weeks from the day you finished the course, maybe sooner. THIS IS BY FAR THE QUICKEST WAY FOR A PERSON TO GET THEIR NVQ2, WHO HAS NO OR LITTLE EXPERIENCE IN THE TRADE.
Now you can correct me if I am wrong but ALL the evidence required for NVQ has to be site evidence and CAN NOT BE SIMULATED it also has to show competence in each element and not that you have don that job on just one occasion. A testimony from a trusted employer and a site visit or two will do the job but were I am getting confused is how can you accredit someone with an NVQ if they have LITTLE OR NO experience in the trade?

Dave

My qoute was from a thread by Chasetiling and if you have any questions that you are not clear on ( which i thought you might know with bieng an A1 assessor as you put it) then contact Ant at chase and ask him directly...


Address Information:

Chase Tiling Academy and Construction Assessment Group
The Cannock Chase Enterprise Centre
Block 3, Unit 307,
Walkers Rise,
Hednesford
WS12 0QU
Telephone:
(01543) 424205

deanotile

I do know the answer as you said I am an assessor. I will contact your sponsor but it would be nice for them to post there answer or are they just misleading people as you have accused me of doing but I am not the one saying I can give NVQ’s to people who have no site experience’s I will also rise the question with the LSC and the TTA

Dave

Please come back and let us know your findings and some literature would be good for all to see...

ChaseTiling

Hi Deanotile,

Your more than welcome to ask me any questions via phone or even better, face to face here at our centre about how to achieve your NVQ in 20 weeks (after your 6 week ICA). I will be more than happy to show you how it is achieved.

Our systems, processes and standards are all accredited by City & Guilds. This stems from the CAA at Bircham Newton, through our EV (who coincidently gave us a 'B' grade for his FIRST quality assurance visit), and our external IV.

Just a point, at the last CAA seminar I attended, they stressed that it is one of the CAA's main objectives to ensure that all assessors, IV's & EV's worked in harmony with each other to ensure an overal aim - student and participant success. Where do you fit into all this?

Tiling NVQ and Tiling Courses
TF Resident NVQ Advisor: Any questions or advice you need on getting an NVQ, then please ask me. Either PM me or post your questions in the NVQ part of the forum, where I shall be sat.

ChaseTiling

And furthermore, the LSC and the TTA directly have nothing to do with City & Guild Qualifications and how they are delivered and achieved.

But you should know that?



LSC - Funding & promoting learning
TTA - An independant organisation that assures quality and promotes tiling throughout the industry - based on the City & Guilds curriculum model & best practice.

Tiling NVQ and Tiling Courses
TF Resident NVQ Advisor: Any questions or advice you need on getting an NVQ, then please ask me. Either PM me or post your questions in the NVQ part of the forum, where I shall be sat.

deanotile

Hi I would love to come and have a look at your centre and discus you systems.